Working on implementing CNG in my government

[Aquariuzz]

Afternoon,
I am gathering facts for a grant I am writing to convert 25% of our government vehicles to CNG as well as build a CNG fueling location.

I'm open to all information that can be provided. My mission right this second is to find out how much it costs to convert buses to CNG.

[Gerben]

Re: Working on implementing CNG in my government

How many and what type of bus? I asume you are talking about gasoline buses? One bus is expensive. For a big fleet the expenses are lower per bus.

[cowboy]

Re: Working on implementing CNG in my government

dont convert buy new buses there is lots of cash from the fed to up grade to clean air buses and you will need to keep a few diesels for trips away from home ie class trips and games where there is no cng just my thoughts

[ccgas]

Re: Working on implementing CNG in my government

There are many sources to do this type of project.
1. You should have a Clean cities in your area or state they usaully admin. the clean school bus programs and fuel reduction depenancy grants. to find them go to department of energy web site. These usaully require some matching funds.
2. theres a block grant for municipalities might be used due to reduction of greenhouse gasses. it is the EECbg (Energy Efficincey Consevartion Block Grant) 100% of the costs.
3. Think tulsa school district did something different by having an investment group form a LLC and bought the busses, converted them, took the fed tax credit, then sold them to school district at about the same cost as normal bus.

I'm attaching my contact list for people that can help you in all the areas of retofitting,stations, and gov contacts.

[Aquariuzz]

Re: Working on implementing CNG in my government

Thank you for the comments and ideas.

First, I am in the initial stages of writing a Energy Efficiency and Conservation Block Grant. I work for the Cherokee Nation, we have $3.2 Million dollars allotted to us for this grant. I am in data gathering mode, so we can decide which projects to pursue and how much they will cost. As well as what benefits they will provide. (ie, energy use reduction, pollution reduction)

I do not have a number of buses to be converted yet. I need to start with the information to convert one bus. We probably would only do 2 or 3 initially.

I thought buying new buses would be less expensive. But I need numbers to validate that argument. The advice for traveling distances is welcome. I need to keep those things in mind.

I've tried to contact the Clean Cities rep from Tulsa, since we are in their area. But I have not heard back from her. Can we use tax credits since we are tax exempt?

I was aware Tulsa schools had converted their school buses, I was not aware they did it that way. That's good information.

Thank you for the list. I will be putting it to good use.

I appreciate all your input and expertise. Thank you all.

[Aquariuzz]

Re: Working on implementing CNG in my government

The Grant is due in the middle of June.

[Apostile]

Re: Working on implementing CNG in my government

The government must pour all savings and revenue into programs that help
the poor and the middle class," stated President of the Philippines, Gloria
Macapagal-Arroyo. A federal order was issued by the President outlining the
government's aim to convert 20 percent of vehicles owned by the national
government to natural gas.
Tricycles represent one of the most popular forms of transportation in
the Philippines and there are millions of gasoline powered tricycles in the
metropolitan area of Metro Manila, causing dangerous pollution levels. The
provision of gas through the NGVPPT program will allow the conversion of
large numbers of tricycles to operate on Natural Gas. Converting the vehicles
to Natural Gas provides a substantial reduction in hazardous emissions and is
cost-effective. CNG Lite(TM) is currently the only commercially-viable system
that can be utilized for the mass conversions of tricycles in the Philippines.
"The addition of tricycles to the NGVPPT moves Energtek one step closer
to our goal of converting massive numbers of tricycles in the Philippines,"
said Energtek CEO Lev Zaidenberg. "The demonstrations further confirmed that
the provision of a cheaper and cleaner motor fuel will benefit tricycle
drivers economically, while contributing to local ecological improvement. CNG
Lite(TM) will provide benefits for the entire population."