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  • xelgo
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    I'll have to tell DH about the 110 to 220. He's never mentioned any such thing. He really wants to get a NGV Civic or convert one of the trucks. We're still learning. Thanks!

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  • Green GX
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    Originally posted by xelgo View Post
    One more question, can one ever get 0% financing for the Honda Civic GX or is 0% showing my lack of new car shopping these days?
    I got 2.9% through American Honda last October when I bought my '07. But, those day are probably gone considering the low production numbers for the GX plus the fact that more people have discovered the GX.

    Bill

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  • CraziFuzzy
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    Originally posted by jetboatjohnny View Post
    How about a 220V generator powered by your well gas.
    "We have lived off-grid 17 years"
    Was about to suggest the same thing. In fact, I would have expected that the house already HAD a 220 NG Generator, simply BECAUSE of the fact that you have the well gas and are off the grid... Perfect backup system!

    I have also heard of some custom built CNG compressors that are driven by a NG engine. It would not be too far fetched in your situation. However, I have no direct information or links about such things.

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  • jetboatjohnny
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    Re: behind the tech curve in Ohio

    How about a 220V generator powered by your well gas.
    "We have lived off-grid 17 years"

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  • rjmaype
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    The 220 volt irefueler is single phase.

    Most homes have two separate 110 volt feeder lines and a ground.

    Many electric dryers and electric stoves are 220 volt single phase.

    So do not worry about converting the 220 to 110 volts

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  • cngmike
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    Clayton is a very dedicated ngv guy he is also a Fuelmaker dealer and operates 3 public stations as well as the dealership. When I met him at the Clan City Conference in Palm Slings a few years ago, his wife told me that he sinks all of his profits from his paving business into his CNG business. He would be a great additon tho this online comunity.

    As for converting a Fuelmaker to 115 volts I sure it could be done but it would take someone much more talented than my self. Any electronic engineers willing to help? Be assured that you will get NO support from Fuelmaker.

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  • cngaz
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    Re: behind the tech curve in Ohio

    More would have probably purchased if Honda ever did 0% on the GX.
    I have not ever seen it.
    All FuelMaker models are now 220 Volt, even the current model of Phill is 220V now.
    Your fuel usage for 2 vehicles would require an FMQ2-36, a Phill would not be practical or keep up with your fueling needs.
    You could get a lot of years with the larger unit, Just be sure to have a good gas drier and get the gas as close as you can to pipe line quality before it goes into the FuelMaker.

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  • xelgo
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    behind the tech curve in Ohio

    Hi all,
    I hope to learn much from others here. I felt like a martian today when I called the local Honda dealership and asked about an NGV. He told me that yes, they were manufactured in Ohio, but they were not sold anywhere in Ohio. From a fueling map website I finally found a gentleman, Clayton King, who sells used NGV's and sells CNG in Coshocton, Ohio. I learned a lot from him throughout our hour-long conversation. He also told me of dealers in Cincinnati and Cleveland who do sell the Civic GX.

    We have a natural gas storage well (Columbia Gas) on our property. We never use up the gas allotment each year to which we are entitled (per the lease) for them leasing our property (from my Grandmother in 1971) for otherwise nothing. We get no credit or cannot bank the difference and usually have approximately 1000 mcf left over after heating the house and gas refrigeration, etc. I figured that at getting us about 20k miles, being conservative on the 2 vehicles' mpg average.

    We have lived off-grid 17 years and therefore, we have some questions about Phill and the FMQ2-36, if anyone can help with the electrical usage questions. Can the 220v be converted to 110? Could we compress and store CNG in a tank of our own when we have extra sunshine? Mr. King says that we would need an FMQ2-36 because of the high moisture NG from the well line. Anyone using Phill on a gas well line?

    Our initial thoughts are to sell/trade our Ford Ranger in on a new Honda Civic GX and get the federal tax credit. Convert the Dodge Ram Cummins to a bi-fuel. Mr. King says they have done it on a Chevy diesel and he explained it uses both diesel and NG at the same time. Our long road trips usually involve the Dodge and the horse trailer, so we could always buy diesel. We would use the Civic to drive back and forth to work whenever we can, which is normally less than 150 miles per week. DH works a 7-day continuos swing and I work 3 days dayshift, so we would both be driving it some to work.

    If we can use a Phill, then I figure the savings would pay off the diesel conversion professionally installed and Phill in less than 2 years and the payments on the Civic would then be covered by the gasoline savings. If we have to go with an FMQ2-36, then awhile longer. CNGmotors.com showed them sold out at $5750. Are they available elsewhere for near that price? How does one go about getting a tax credit for the fuelmaker, does it have to be brand new from a dealer? Mr. King told me an FMQ2-36 would be $10k.

    One more question, can one ever get 0% financing for the Honda Civic GX or is 0% showing my lack of new car shopping these days?

    Boardmaster,
    Please holler at me if I need to post these newbie questions elsewhere.
    Thanks,
    Mel

    eta: I see from a comparison chart found on the forum that I got the volts wrong, sorry, dumb me.
    Last edited by xelgo; 04-12-2008, 09:40 PM.
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