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Hi all,
I hope to learn much from others here. I felt like a martian
today when I called the local Honda dealership and asked about an NGV. He told me that yes, they were manufactured in Ohio, but they were not sold anywhere in Ohio. From a fueling map website I finally found a gentleman, Clayton King, who sells used NGV's and sells CNG in Coshocton, Ohio. I learned a lot from him throughout our hour-long conversation. He also told me of dealers in Cincinnati and Cleveland who do sell the Civic GX.
We have a natural gas storage well (Columbia Gas) on our property. We never use up the gas allotment each year to which we are entitled (per the lease) for them leasing our property (from my Grandmother in 1971) for otherwise nothing. We get no credit or cannot bank the difference and usually have approximately 1000 mcf left over after heating the house and gas refrigeration, etc. I figured that at getting us about 20k miles, being conservative on the 2 vehicles' mpg average.
We have lived off-grid 17 years and therefore, we have some questions about Phill and the FMQ2-36, if anyone can help with the electrical usage questions. Can the 220v be converted to 110? Could we compress and store CNG in a tank of our own when we have extra sunshine? Mr. King says that we would need an FMQ2-36 because of the high moisture NG from the well line. Anyone using Phill on a gas well line?
Our initial thoughts are to sell/trade our Ford Ranger in on a new Honda Civic GX and get the federal tax credit. Convert the Dodge Ram Cummins to a bi-fuel. Mr. King says they have done it on a Chevy diesel and he explained it uses both diesel and NG at the same time. Our long road trips usually involve the Dodge and the horse trailer, so we could always buy diesel. We would use the Civic to drive back and forth to work whenever we can, which is normally less than 150 miles per week. DH works a 7-day continuos swing and I work 3 days dayshift, so we would both be driving it some to work.
If we can use a Phill, then I figure the savings would pay off the diesel conversion professionally installed and Phill in less than 2 years and the payments on the Civic would then be covered by the gasoline savings. If we have to go with an FMQ2-36, then awhile longer. CNGmotors.com showed them sold out at $5750. Are they available elsewhere for near that price? How does one go about getting a tax credit for the fuelmaker, does it have to be brand new from a dealer? Mr. King told me an FMQ2-36 would be $10k.
One more question, can one ever get 0% financing for the Honda Civic GX or is 0% showing my lack of new car shopping these days?
Boardmaster,
Please holler at me if I need to post these newbie questions elsewhere.
Thanks,
Mel
eta: I see from a comparison chart found on the forum that I got the volts wrong, sorry, dumb me.
I hope to learn much from others here. I felt like a martian
today when I called the local Honda dealership and asked about an NGV. He told me that yes, they were manufactured in Ohio, but they were not sold anywhere in Ohio. From a fueling map website I finally found a gentleman, Clayton King, who sells used NGV's and sells CNG in Coshocton, Ohio. I learned a lot from him throughout our hour-long conversation. He also told me of dealers in Cincinnati and Cleveland who do sell the Civic GX.We have a natural gas storage well (Columbia Gas) on our property. We never use up the gas allotment each year to which we are entitled (per the lease) for them leasing our property (from my Grandmother in 1971) for otherwise nothing. We get no credit or cannot bank the difference and usually have approximately 1000 mcf left over after heating the house and gas refrigeration, etc. I figured that at getting us about 20k miles, being conservative on the 2 vehicles' mpg average.
We have lived off-grid 17 years and therefore, we have some questions about Phill and the FMQ2-36, if anyone can help with the electrical usage questions. Can the 220v be converted to 110? Could we compress and store CNG in a tank of our own when we have extra sunshine? Mr. King says that we would need an FMQ2-36 because of the high moisture NG from the well line. Anyone using Phill on a gas well line?
Our initial thoughts are to sell/trade our Ford Ranger in on a new Honda Civic GX and get the federal tax credit. Convert the Dodge Ram Cummins to a bi-fuel. Mr. King says they have done it on a Chevy diesel and he explained it uses both diesel and NG at the same time. Our long road trips usually involve the Dodge and the horse trailer, so we could always buy diesel. We would use the Civic to drive back and forth to work whenever we can, which is normally less than 150 miles per week. DH works a 7-day continuos swing and I work 3 days dayshift, so we would both be driving it some to work.
If we can use a Phill, then I figure the savings would pay off the diesel conversion professionally installed and Phill in less than 2 years and the payments on the Civic would then be covered by the gasoline savings. If we have to go with an FMQ2-36, then awhile longer. CNGmotors.com showed them sold out at $5750. Are they available elsewhere for near that price? How does one go about getting a tax credit for the fuelmaker, does it have to be brand new from a dealer? Mr. King told me an FMQ2-36 would be $10k.
One more question, can one ever get 0% financing for the Honda Civic GX or is 0% showing my lack of new car shopping these days?
Boardmaster,
Please holler at me if I need to post these newbie questions elsewhere.
Thanks,
Mel
eta: I see from a comparison chart found on the forum that I got the volts wrong, sorry, dumb me.
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