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  • "Current Stagnation of NGV in America"

    Somebody lamenting about the lack of CNG options.

    Special to The Auto ChannelMichael Fitzsimmons Seeking Alpha March 08, 2009:Most of you already know I believe natural gas transportation is the key to ending US reliance on foreign oil, protecting the America from the economic and social implications of peak oil (some of which we are experiencing today), and meaningfully reducing CO2 emissions. With a desire to practice what I preach, I embarked on a mission to study the non-fleet (consumer) NGV status quo in America and determine how I can obtain and refuel a NGV. Here’s what I found out. It’s well known both GM and Ford (F) manufacture and sell NGVs in Europe and elsewhere. However, they refuse to build and sell these vehicles in the US.

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    Re: "Current Stagnation of NGV in America"

    Good article. Thanks.
    Adrian

    Navy 2008 Civic GX (wife's)
    Silver 2012 Toyota Prius
    Grey 2012 Civic Natural Gas (mine)

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      Re: "Current Stagnation of NGV in America"

      Excellent article. Looks like we finally have an "establishment" writer who gets it.

      I doubt the environmental fanatic lobby (Gore) will ever lose their foolish global warming prejudices long enough to see reason or light. Obama apparently does not have the balls, leadership ability, nor the desire to buck the corrupt Congressional idiots in power... hence, nothing will change. I hope Im wrong, but based on his empty promises to stop PORKY projects, the future for real improvement is bleak. The hypocritical puppet says one thing, then does the opposite to please the real masters.

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        Re: "Current Stagnation of NGV in America"

        The thing that turned Phill into a $4000 machine was making it pass all the approvals to make it an 'appliance' so it could be installed anywhere. His $1250 pump from China won't have that approval or probably all the safety features (some important, some stupid) of the Phill.
        02 GX
        01 GX
        03 Crown Vic
        06 GX
        Home Fueler

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          Re: "Current Stagnation of NGV in America"

          I bought my GXs long before they were officially 'sold' in California. One came from Utah and the other from Michigan. You aren't limited to what's available at the dealer. (PS they're now available at retail from a dealer or two in UT, aren't they?)
          02 GX
          01 GX
          03 Crown Vic
          06 GX
          Home Fueler

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            Re: "Current Stagnation of NGV in America"

            Once a vehicle is 10 years old or has accumulated 120,000 miles, the EPA’s jurisdiction no longer applies as the vehicle has passed the threshold of “useful life”. There are small conversion shops that will convert these vehicles to natural gas.
            What?! 10 years *or* 120,000 miles?

            120,000 miles? Where did that come from? If that is the case then the restriction this website imposes on discussions about (cough-cough) "legal" conversions is moot.


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