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    US NGVTF to Be Reconstituted Market Developments Source - NGV Global Monday, 15 September 2008 00:00 USA
    The US National Renewable Energy Laboratory has announced the re-vitalization of the Natural Gas Vehicle Technology Forum (NGVTF). The objective of the old and new NGVTF is to support development and deployment of commercially competitive natural gas engines, vehicles, and infrastructure. The NGVTF brings together a diverse group of stakeholders to share information and leverage resources. Specific goals include:
    • Identifying natural gas engine, vehicle, and infrastructure technology targets and facilitating government-industry research, development, demonstration, and deployment programs to achieve the targets;
    • Communicating the high-priority needs of NGV end users to natural gas equipment and vehicle manufacturers who can fulfill these needs; and
    • Enabling fleets and other large purchasers to aggregate demand for specific natural gas vehicles and equipment.

    The first meeting of the new NGVTF will be held on November 19-20, 2008 at SEMPRA Energy’s Energy Resource Center in Downey, California. All those interested in NGV R&D or other technology issues are urged to attend. For more information or to register to attend, contact Doug Horne at [email protected]
    Last edited by Curtis; 09-18-2008, 09:48 PM.

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    Re: US NGVTF to Be Reconstituted

    Will they help in getting John Deere to start producing there good CNG motors again so the heavier fleets might go for it?
    Last edited by ccgas; 09-18-2008, 03:49 PM. Reason: spelling

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      Re: US NGVTF to Be Reconstituted

      Curtis, I was looking at the Cummings-Wesport engines, and wondering if there was a way to stuff one of those in a pickup? Maybe you can ask them if they have any plans. Add an Allison tranny too would be nice!
      BLUE 09 GX

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        Re: US NGVTF to Be Reconstituted

        We had presentations from Caterpillar and several other heavy cng engine providers that I will provide info on (here) in the near future. You'd be surprised at the # of applications there are available for conversion now between BAF, Cummings and Caterpillar. The offerings are giving the fleets comparable reliability and longevity as the diesel versions these days, and are saving tremendously on fuel. Tax credits make it a 2 year ROI in many cases to do the conversion with these engines.

        Clean Fuel USA has also become a geave hitter in the big conversions these days, with everything EPA/CARB approved (or soon to be). The propane conversions run 1/2 the price, give-or -take and have incentives in the way of tax credits as well.

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          Re: US NGVTF to Be Reconstituted

          Are any of th big 3 US auto makers their talking about their plans for the future? I saw a published joint technology paper from all 3 and CNG was not mentioned once. They were talking about E85. Hydrogen and electric.

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            Re: US NGVTF to Be Reconstituted

            GM is the only one showing interest, check this thread, it has all the articles and blogs:
            http://www.cngchat.com/forum/showthr...hlight=General
            BLUE 09 GX

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              Re: US NGVTF to Be Reconstituted

              The Cummins-Wesport technologies would be great for CNG. With the ability to run on the diesel cycle with no pilot fuel at all will increase the fuel economy dramatically. I think the old 5.9 engine is one of their development engines--which is a drop in for a Dodge.

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                Re: US NGVTF to Be Reconstituted

                The 5.9 is going away at the end of the 2009 model year. It will be replaced with an 8.9 ltr. Seems the 5.9 was a slow seller. You'd have to drop in the whole computer and everything for it to be legal, but I doubt it would be cheap.

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                  Re: US NGVTF to Be Reconstituted

                  The only OEM that presented at Big Sky was GM, and Malibu is right, they talk about everything but cng. Hopefully the current legislation will encourage them to reenter the market, but doing so would be 2-3 years, if they started now, which there's no indication that they have such an intent.

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                    Re: US NGVTF to Be Reconstituted

                    Is this the same Technology Exchange that Leo use to host in Vagas?

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                      Re: US NGVTF to Be Reconstituted

                      I'm not really sure. Very well could be.

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                        Re: US NGVTF to Be Reconstituted

                        No.

                        But check his website for more info: www.ngvi.com

                        afvman

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                          US Natural Gas Vehicle Technology Forum (NGVTF) Revitalizing its Efforts

                          http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008...-gas.html#more
                          BLUE 09 GX

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