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  • jblue
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    Originally posted by mecklen View Post
    As for standing up to a policeman, I'm not sure I would have the cajones to challenge a cop.
    You do not stand up to a policeman per se, you respect the badge but stand up for your rights.

    People, out ignorance, in the name of "security" (whatever that is suppose to mean at any given time) or just because they feel compliance is required will freely surrender their rights when asked to do so.

    Nevertheless, there are no guidelines for every situation and only you can decide what you are going to do. But you can only do that effectively if you are educated about the law as opposed to these freaks that spew myths about what your rights are.

    It just kills me when you read about cases where a person did their best to cooperate with law enforcement, under the misguided pretense of "we have nothing to hide" only to be charged, prosecuted, and then exonerated of any wrong doing.

    In college my political science instructor, who I suspect was a hippie , said over and over that if someone is arrested, guilty or not, the only words spoken to police should be: I want an attorney.


    whoops .. sorry for monologuing ..


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  • Beej
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    Originally posted by mecklen View Post
    Perhaps you've read the accounts of people filling up a the Haycock stations in Las Vegas?
    That's actually the first thing that came to my mind and the reason I wanted to write the post.

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  • mecklen
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    Originally posted by Beej View Post
    ... why would an officer treat someone like that? ... My advice: if you run into the long arm of the law giving you crap about using the pump, stand your ground.
    Perhaps you've read the accounts of people filling up a the Haycock stations in Las Vegas? I filled up at the Jordan Station for the first time yesterday and it is quite out of the way. I can certainly understand the officer's initial suspicion, but having him mutter retorts at you after your explanation just seems rude.

    As for standing up to a policeman, I'm not sure I would have the cajones to challenge a cop. Of course, telling him that the new law went into effect July 1st and that he may not have heard of it is obviously the right thing to do.

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  • jblue
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    Originally posted by Beej View Post
    But why would an officer treat someone like that?
    Because he has an ego and was ticked that what he thought was something he was going to cuff you for turned out to be nothing.

    My wife and I previously had purchased new construction in a subdivision and of course moving day ended up lasting into the wee hours of the morning. So there we were unloading our stuff when my future next door neighbor rolls up in a squad car. Turns the freaking ignition off, starts the car back, up flips on the emergency lights and comes over to ask "what the hell was going on here."

    uhhh .. I am moving in.

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  • Beej
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    Harassment at the Pump

    So I've been LOVING my state gas card and the stations it has opened up to us. I did have a fun experience this evening though.

    I was at the Jordan School District pump in Sandy filling up when one of Sandy's finest stopped by to top off his tank as well. As he approached the pumps he slowed down, saw me with my wife and children filling up a Civic, and something about that must have said to him that something was wrong. He slowly circled around us appraising the situation. My wife waved pleasantly at him but with no response.

    Finally he pulled up to his pump, I figured he was finally satisfied that we weren't a threat. He stepped out of his car and I greeted him. Again, no response. Instead he pulled out his flash light, shined it in my face and then kept shining it on my plates. He kept asking "Is that a state car? It doesn't look like a state car. Is it a private car?" I told him that it's a private car, that the state had opened up several pumps to us, and even offered to show him my gas card as proof that I belonged there. He didn't seem impressed. He then made some weird comment about "some people have all the luck" I replied with "Well, we pay for it." ("And your car, gas and salary for that matter too" was the next thought that I kept to myself.) He was very rude, condescending and untrusting of the whole situation.

    I was a little bothered by the overall situation. I guess not everyone knows that we have access to these pumps now. But why would an officer treat someone like that? You would think they deal with enough negativity every day on the job and that a pleasant conversation with a law abiding citizen would be a welcomed relief but maybe not.

    My advice: if you run into the long arm of the law giving you crap about using the pump, stand your ground. You know you can be there, politely let them know the same (no sense getting lippy with the man with the cuffs and a gun) but it's our right to use it whether they like it or not.
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