New Station In San Fernando, CA

[Green GX]

120 N. McNeil St. just North of 1st Street.

1.999/gal. as of 4/8/08

[freedml]

Re: New Station In San Fernando, CA

slight correction, 120 N MacNeil St. in order for Google Maps to find it. If you look at the 'street view' you can see the dispensers in the process of being installed!

[camryman]

Re: New Station In San Fernando, CA

Nice station by the police station, and a nice price $1.99 but the nozzle sucks!!! The nozzle likes to stick and doesn't want to come off your car when your done pumping. I Filled up 4x so far and the pressure gives a little less than 3600 fills. It's also kind of far off the freeway with lots of slow stop lights.

[freedml]

Re: New Station In San Fernando, CA

It's close to 5, 118 and 210 freeways. There are fast ways to get there from all 3. Try the Brand exit from the 5 next time...

[Green GX]

Re: New Station In San Fernando, CA

Nice station by the police station, and a nice price $1.99 but the nozzle sucks!!! The nozzle likes to stick and doesn't want to come off your car when your done pumping. I Filled up 4x so far and the pressure gives a little less than 3600 fills. It's also kind of far off the freeway with lots of slow stop lights.

I agree with the <3600 fill. I filled mine there, waited 10 minutes and tried to top it off. It topped of with .086 gal and was still one tick mark down from full. The official Honda thermometer was indicating 73 deg. F, not very hot outside.

Bill

[Green GX]

Re: New Station In San Fernando, CA

slight correction, 120 N MacNeil St. in order for Google Maps to find it. If you look at the 'street view' you can see the dispensers in the process of being installed!

Oops! Spelling it right can make a difference.

Bill

[camryman]

Re: New Station In San Fernando, CA

I'm going to stick with Burbank when the price goes up in San Fernando. Burbank is easy on and off the freeway and the site is usually always operational. It's also filling at 4000 psi. I checked out the pressure gauge on a city bus that was filling. It's nice to get the extra fill

[freedml]

Re: New Station In San Fernando, CA

Just fueled at San Fernando last night and still $1.99 and a good fill (but no pressure indication to confirm that). The best part about San Fernando, IT'S NOT A CLEAN ENERGY STATION. YEA. It was installed by the local Fuelmaker dealer GESI. (Now if they could only get Curtis' station to work!).

[Oceanside-GX-Guy]

Re: New Station In San Fernando, CA

I'm going to stick with Burbank when the price goes up in San Fernando. Burbank is easy on and off the freeway and the site is usually always operational. It's also filling at 4000 psi. I checked out the pressure gauge on a city bus that was filling. It's nice to get the extra fill

Is 400psi safe? Sorry if the questions seems funny.

[Oceanside-GX-Guy]

Re: New Station In San Fernando, CA

The tanks are designed to operate up to 125% of rated capacity, or 4500 psi. This is to account for the increase in pressure with temperature. If you fill to 3600 with the gas at standard temperature of 59 degrees F and then leave the vehicle out in the sun until the tank is at about 160-180 degrees in your black car in Palm Springs, you would hit 4500 psi and still be safe. DOT bottles test at 150% but you do not want to use them at more than 125%. The composite tanks do not burst until about 400% of rated pressure, well over 10,000 psi so you have a lot of safety margin even at 125%.

In theory the filling station should compensate for the ambient temperature and give you a higher pressure fill if the temperature is over 59 degrees and less if the temperature is lower. I know some of the fuelmakers do this but I am not familiar with commercial station design.

You are also compressing the fuel that is already in the tank so it heats up and results in an "underfill" even if you put in 3600 psi of fuel and everything started at 59 degrees. That is why a "slow fill" that allows time for the heat of compression to dissipate is better at the same end pressure than a fast fill.

So 4000 psi on a normal day is about right for a 3600psi tank and actually too low on a fast fill on a very hot summer day. Even a 4500 psi fill under very hot conditions would be "safe" and within the original design of the systems.

Thank you! You are awesome.

[Deeta]

Re: New Station In San Fernando, CA

I use San Fernando almost daily but use Burbank too. Now that BUR is $2.45 I will deal with the slightly less fill I get from SF. The station is run by the city and I know several people that work in the Public Works Dept. They tell me that they are committed to keeping the price at their cost. This is NOT a CE station so it would help us all out to use it since it may encourage other cities to install or open their facilities too.

As far as getting there, depending on traffic I take the 118 Fwy (if I'm heading north on I-5) to the San Fernando exit. I head North on SF Rd. Veer right onto Truman and turn right at Brand (McDonalds), cross RR tracks, left on First St and right on Macneil. There are only a few lights on this route. You can look for signs for the PD or City Hall, which is across the street.

On another note, make a dinner stop at Gourmet Tamales around the corner at 119 N. Maclay just north of First St. which serves huge gourmet tamales (hence the name) filled with traditional fare as well as things like veggies or seafood. YUM! Also off of San Fernando Mission Blvd at 1242 Pico at is Carrillo's which is George Lopez's (and mine too) favorite place. Also try La Palma Bakery on Mission for great Pan Dulce (sweet bread).

[camryman]

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I've been dollar cost averaging. Example If I'm heading south and need gas I'll Fill up at SF and then drive to Burbank and Top off for a bigger fill. So I don't have to fill up 100% at CE. I also do this in Ontario. I fill up at 3000 psi for 1.74 and top off at the next station. This is better than giving all my $$$ to CE. Good food suggestions. I'll give them a try.

[black cat]

Re: Station In San Fernando

-from ut- stopped at San Fernando at 4am swiped Visa, it asked me for the O-domerter reading then car number which is my vin # at 4am who in there right mind asks for the vin # if it was licience # why not asked for licience # so got on my GPS and punched in Burbank add -- no match found-- so went on with gasoline. asked the lady at the motel for Aldama st and sent me on a wild goose chase. Yes there are plenty of cng filling stations, I read everyone fills at San Fernando or Burbank. comp down at the motel so no getting address of other stations, so filled up at Springville in good old UT.

[cngmike]

Re: Station In San Fernando

on my old E.J. Ward system it would ask for milage. This was for tracking our fleet milage for service. all non fleet customers had to do was push enter to proceed.

[Deeta]

Re: New Station In San Fernando, CA

Sorry that happened to you. I was there again yesterday and it didn't ask me for mileage when I used my visa and it hasn't before. CNGMike, I'll remember to push enter if it ever asks me.

FYI, there IS a (very good) station in Burbank. Exit is off of Burbank Blvd West to Victory South (left) to first light. Quick left, left and station is on the right along freeway.