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  • 300mileclub
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    Find HONDA dealers having CNG service technicians

    If you want to locate a HONDA dealer having a certified CNG mechanic, their website can help.

    http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-n...gas/fleet.aspx


    Start with the GX or natural gas CIVIC page. If you enter your zip code in the "fleet sales" box and select SEARCH, the results will be HONDA Dealerships that provide service to CNG fleet customers. They have the certified CNG technician(s) that can work on your HONDA too.

    The search result page allows the search to be narrowed to dealers that do CNG service. Rerun the search with this box checked and the results will confirm that the dealer works on CNG cars.

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  • mlnielsen
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    Here's the fuel inspection study guide:

    http://www.cleanvehicle.org/technolo...uide_Final.pdf

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  • larrycng
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    Nope, it all external visual inspection. Eventhough Luxfer makes SCUBA as well as NGV tanks, no internal inspection. There should be next to no moisture in CNG so even the type I and 2 steel tanks should no see any rust or corrosion. The worst thing that happens is that compressor oil can get inside the tanks and reduce the volume of gas the CNG tank can hold -- and that is rare.

    NFPA 52, CGA c-6.4, and FMVSS 304 (49 CFR571.304), and manufactrer's guidlines are the controlling documents

    Larrycng

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  • mlnielsen
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    So, they don't actually inspect the INSIDES of the tanks? You're kidding, right?
    You'd think that would be the critical to a successful inspection...
    That's how SCUBA tanks are inspected, by removing the valves and fully inspecting the interior and exterior of the tanks.

    Am I missing something?

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  • larrycng
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    Originally posted by mlnielsen View Post
    I have a few tank inspection questions.
    1. What is involved in the inspection (vent CNG, remove valves, borescope ispection?).
    Remove all shields or guards, visually inspect tanks, inspect valve, fuel lines, components, leak test system ( with soap type solution or electronic methane detector), do paper work, re-assemble system.

    2. How long does it take (2hrs to disassemble, inspect, reassemble?).
    Depends on how good the inspector is. That would be an outside time for a crown vic.

    3. How do they refill the tanks (tow to CNG station?).
    No need to refill, they don't vent the tanks.

    4. How much does it cost (hourly rate?).
    Depends on who is doing the work.


    Check with Anton Wong at the S.F. Ford shop on 211 Industrial in S.F. He knows the systems, but is not currently certified as a CNG fuel system inspector. Phone # 415.2542.3423

    Hope this helps

    Larrycng

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  • mlnielsen
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    I have a few tank inspection questions.
    1. What is involved in the inspection (vent CNG, remove valves, borescope ispection?).
    2. How long does it take (2hrs to disassemble, inspect, reassemble?).
    3. How do they refill the tanks (tow to CNG station?).
    4. How much does it cost (hourly rate?).

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  • larrycng
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    Just something for general consideration. When checking the cost of having cylinders inspected, check the "shop labor rates" for the area in which you live. The San Francisco is a high priced area and it is also a "union" area. I remember quite a few years ago when the labor rate on Van Ness Ave was $100 per hour. The labor rate in the Palm Springs, where I was working, was around $60 per hour (non union - no, I'm beating unions). What's "flat rate" for inspecting and certifying and tank? (if it is listed).

    When a technician does an inspection, the time it takes to remove shields, clean the tanks (so you can see any defects), do the inspection, reassemble the system, and do the paper work, comes out of his work day and he should be compensated accordingly. He/she could be doing more "high tech" operations that could command a higher compensation rate. if different automotive service operations were priced according to technical complexity. Many Cylinder inspector, have training in many areas, some much more technical than cylinder inspection. It is the training, experience, competence, and shop overhead you are paying for; things ain't cheap today.

    It's ok to shop around, and you can get some good deals. this is common sense. Just be careful and be comfortable wit the inspector/technician you choose.

    Larrycng.

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  • ajgiorgi
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    Originally posted by jschaub View Post
    Joe Trapani at Trap's Tire and Auto Center in South San Francisco inspects CNG tanks. He told me the charge would be approximately $217 to inspect the tanks on my '98 F250, "depending on how the shielding comes off."

    http://www.trapstire.com/index.htm
    May be cheaper at Stevens Creek Honda in San Jose. Give them a call who ever is getting the service done. Shop around.

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  • venomous99
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    thanks for posting that..its great to know we have a local resource now.

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  • jschaub
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    Joe Trapani at Trap's Tire and Auto Center in South San Francisco inspects CNG tanks. He told me the charge would be approximately $217 to inspect the tanks on my '98 F250, "depending on how the shielding comes off."

    http://www.trapstire.com/index.htm

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  • venomous99
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    yeah i called them up and the cost was somewhere in the the $300 range. that includes the inspection and some other official form that gets sent to some agency that regulates the use of these tanks. anyone know what the form is all about?

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  • cquirk
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    So Daytech in Fairfiled (707) 429-5009 1249 Illinois St Ste 2
    Fairfield, CA 94533. Yes it is a pia to get out to them but they work Saturdays and may be able to get this all done for you in a day while you wait.

    I usually have my vehicle towed out there for service and get me wife to drive me out to pick it up on the weekend. They are close to Amtrak so that might be an option

    They are not cheap but do a very thorough job and I have a very high level of confidence in there work. Been a customer for over 5 years now

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  • echamberlain
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    We ended up using someone from Fresno that routinely makes trips to the bay area.

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  • venomous99
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    anyone ever find out a suitable shop to inspect cng tanks in the bay area?

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  • ajgiorgi
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    Re: Certified CNG inspection mechanic in Bay Area - South Bay preferred

    When you set your prices, can you post them on here? Thanks.

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