PGE Prices

[freedml]

Hi,

I just used my PGE card for the first time last month and just got the bill. It says I bought 5.6 GGE for a total of $14.28. So, by my math, it was $2.55/GGE. cngprices.com says $2.98/gge so I wanted to check and see if I'm missing something.

Thanks.

[Jennifer]

Re: PGE Prices

They changed their pricing on July 1. Right now it is 2.98. You can see the tariff on their website:

http://pge.com/tariffs/GRF.SHTML#GNGV2

[Triskal]

Re: PGE Prices

PG&E updates their prices on the first of the month. You can download the spreadsheet of previous prices here:

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/GNGV2_Current.xls

You are charged for the price that the fuel was on the day that you purchased it.

Shawn

[rojak]

Re: PGE Prices

I noticed that, too... The statement that PG&E sends is a bit of a read... it appears they apply some sort of fudge factor that seems to change the GGE volume count -- maybe that's how the price that's listed on the CNG Prices map is determined...? I think one needs just look at the bottom line of what was charged on the bill for the #GGE's the pump supplied.

[rojak]

Re: PGE Prices

Sounds legitimate... maybe you ought to update cngprices.com with that price. I just send a message to cngprices.com to find out how they're determining the PG&E prices... perhaps the individual citizen(s) that are posting them are misunderstanding their PG&E summary?

What station did you go to?

Thanks!

[ajgiorgi]

Re: PGE Prices

You know I saw a transportation charge on the bill also. My question is if there already transporting the nat gas for there fleet why do we have to pay? Some BS going on I tell ya. LOL.

BTW, the bill is a little complicated. I just divide the total of the bill by the GGE I purchased. Still a lot cheaper than gas though.

[TheBundo]

Re: PGE Prices

You know I saw a transportation charge on the bill also. My question is if there already transporting the nat gas for there fleet why do we have to pay? Some BS going on I tell ya. LOL.

BTW, the bill is a little complicated. I just divide the total of the bill by the GGE I purchased. Still a lot cheaper than gas though.

Ahhh, maybe because they have to transport more for us, or the cost is split. I can't see any reason we should get a free ride.

[OptimaCNG]

Re: PGE Prices

I tried Union City pump couple times and checked the credit card charge is different than the pump. It shows $2.27/gge but I calculate and comes up with $2.80/gge. Sounds wired! I think I better stick with the PG&E station.

[freedml]

Re: PGE Prices

The PGE bill is just like a residential or commercial gas bill. It has several components, such as customer charge, transportation charge and commodity charge.

[TheBundo]

Re: PGE Prices

PG&E doesn't seem to bill all the fills, IMO

[OptimaCNG]

Re: PGE Prices

How soon PG&E update their price? 2nd week of the month or any specific day?

[hoofnit]

Re: PGE Prices

Always on the first of every month per the PUC. You can see the most recent filings here:

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/GAS_SCHEDS_G-NGV2.pdf

On November 1 cost per GGE will be $2.03.

[cngprices]

Re: PGE Prices

If anyone here works for PG&E (or knows someone who does) and knows about those monthly price updates, I can set up administration pages for them on CNGPrices.com that allow them to change the price all at once for all the stations - it's good because it is easy for them and can bypass the normal approval system. There are a lot of stations and I always feel bad for the people changing them manually every month.

Cheers,
Todd

PS That goes for anyone that operates one or more stations - I can set you up with your own admin page for those stations. Contact me on cngprices.com for more info.

[ajgiorgi]

Re: PGE Prices

Always on the first of every month per the PUC. You can see the most recent filings here:

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/GAS_SCHEDS_G-NGV2.pdf

On November 1 cost per GGE will be $2.03.

Seriously, its going to drop 5 cents. Gas has dropped 25 percent or more from the beginning of October and all we get is a five cent decrease. That's some BS!

[purp]

Re: PGE Prices

Seriously, its going to drop 5 cents. Gas has dropped 25 percent or more from the beginning of October and all we get is a five cent decrease. That's some BS!

I understand your disappointment, but we should remember that it's not tied directly to gas prices. There's procurement, transportation, and the PPP surcharge. Transportation is the biggest part, though, and seems to tie only marginally to the cost of petroleum-based fuels. You can look at http://www.pge.com/tariffs/GNGV2_Current.xls for the historical breakdown.

$2.14/gge in January has me a bit sad, though, with super unleaded at ~$2/gal. I'm hoping for a drop in Q1.