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  • OhMyGas
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    Re: New 230V Phill (Gen 1.5)

    Originally posted by moore101 View Post
    Thanks for the info. How are you getting flow rates do you have a seperate gas meter? Any pictures of your install? I had a mini excel gas meter but it measured in metric and i was too lazy to do the math and it broke.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Compact-Propane-...QQcmdZViewItem
    Yes, I do have a gasmeter installed. My installation looks similar to Holtek's.
    http://holtekonline.net/NGV/PHILL.htm
    But there is a window above the meter and the supply gas line comes thru the wall to the meter.
    And I have a 'wind-up' timer installed to be able to turn off the unit after a certain time.
    When I have a chance I take a picture and post it.

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  • cngmike
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    Re: New 230V Phill (Gen 1.5)

    If any one is interested in a gas meter contact me you will have to pick it up or pay for shipping.

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  • moore101
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    Re: New 230V Phill (Gen 1.5)

    Originally posted by OhMyGas View Post
    How do I find the version#?
    I got my Phill in Dec. '07 and it requires a 240V (or 230V) outlet.
    So I might have Gen 1.5.
    I noticed it has a RS232 port, any idea if connecting a PC with hyper-terminal will give me any details?

    UPDATE:
    I looked at the label and the model# ends in '-G1.5', So I do have the new generation.
    here are some numbers I was monitoring with temp around 50F but do not know my inlet-pressure:
    on an empty tank the flow was: 1.1 scfm
    if the tank is full the flow was: 0.69 scfm

    This is straight flow, if you want to consider the entire pumping period you have to add 1/2h idle (drying cycle) for every 8h of pumping.
    Unfortunately this 1/2 h of idle time ALSO counts toward the 6000h pump life.
    Thanks for the info. How are you getting flow rates do you have a seperate gas meter? Any pictures of your install? I had a mini excel gas meter but it measured in metric and i was too lazy to do the math and it broke.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Compact-Propane-...QQcmdZViewItem

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  • Curtis
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    Re: New 230V Phill (Gen 1.5)

    I would suspect that, as with all such terminals, you would need the software in your laptop so that you could communicate with the Phill. I have it on good authority that Phill speaks Canadian. Damn hosers.

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  • OhMyGas
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    Re: New 230V Phill (Gen 1.5)

    How do I find the version#?
    I got my Phill in Dec. '07 and it requires a 240V (or 230V) outlet.
    So I might have Gen 1.5.
    I noticed it has a RS232 port, any idea if connecting a PC with hyper-terminal will give me any details?

    UPDATE:
    I looked at the label and the model# ends in '-G1.5', So I do have the new generation.
    here are some numbers I was monitoring with temp around 50F but do not know my inlet-pressure:
    on an empty tank the flow was: 1.1 scfm
    if the tank is full the flow was: 0.69 scfm

    This is straight flow, if you want to consider the entire pumping period you have to add 1/2h idle (drying cycle) for every 8h of pumping.
    Unfortunately this 1/2 h of idle time ALSO counts toward the 6000h pump life.
    Last edited by OhMyGas; 03-18-2008, 02:38 PM.

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  • cngaz
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    Re: New 230V Phill (Gen 1.5)

    We just ordered our first version 1.5 to install in Arizona, this will be our first unit that is not 110. We are curious to see how it compares.

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  • moore101
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    New 230V Phill (Gen 1.5)

    Anyone see the documentation listed here on the 230V Phill?
    http://www.myphill.com/downloads.htm
    v1.0:
    GAS
    Maximum Discharge Pressure: 24.8 MPa @ 21°C (3600 psig @ 70°F)
    Nominal Flow Rate (60 Hz): 1.37 m3/hr @ 21°C and 1.7 kPa inlet
    (0.80 scfm @ 70°F and 7” w.c. inlet)
    ELECTRICAL
    Electrical Supply: 120 VAC 60Hz / 230 VAC 50 Hz, Single Phase
    Circuit Ampacity: 15 Amps
    Full Load Amperage: 10 / 4 Amps
    Average Power Consumption: 800 Watts

    v1.5:
    GAS
    Maximum Discharge Pressure:3600 psig @ 70°F and >
    Minimum Flow Rate: 0.47 scfm @ 70°F and 0.25 psig (7” w.c.) inlet
    Maximum Flow Rate: 1.24 scfm @ 70°F and 0.50 psig (7’ w. c.) inlet

    ELECTRICAL
    Electrical Supply:240 VAC / 60Hz / Single Phase
    Circuit Ampacity: 15 Amps
    Full Load Amperage: 5.5 Amps
    Average Power Consumption: 830 Watts

    So it looks like the 230V version is a little faster than the 120V. Does anyone have a real world comparison between these two versions?
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