Why can't we buy a European home re-fueling unit. Does anyone have any contact info for European models? Is it illegal in the US? What are the alternatives to Phill & Fuelmaker?
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As far as I know, there aren't any other companies that make a home refueling unit. Fuelmaker has definitely led the way in the market.
Actually, Fuelmaker is also very active in Europe. I know they have sold many units in France, etc. Unfortunately, I'm guessing that other companies view the market to be too small to make the investment to enter it.
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Right you are Jennifer. I did a search on European CNG Filling Units and I found two companies that make small CNG filling units. One was of course Fuelmaker and the other was Bauer. Bauer's unit was however designed to be portable. So I'm pretty sure that Fuelmaker is the only one.Jared.
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Originally posted by Highmarker View PostRight you are Jennifer. I did a search on European CNG Filling Units and I found two companies that make small CNG filling units. One was of course Fuelmaker and the other was Bauer. Bauer's unit was however designed to be portable. So I'm pretty sure that Fuelmaker is the only one.In the inner city we have Natural gas lines for gas stoves but thats only in some areas and an very old network. But i hope they will start to expand this network now when we can use it to fill up our cars
And the only home filling unit i know is Phill and closest dealer is Finland for me...
They have Natural gas in our gas lines in the inner city and also plan (2010) to replace this gas with BioGas.. So thats even better
Nice forum you have here btw..
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To keep this thread on topic I have moved the subsequent discussion on European NGV's to a new thread in the "Other NGV" Forum. Please follow it there:
I have somewhere in my bookmarks two home CNG compressor products... one from the UK and another from the Netherlands. Anyone know of them?
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Originally posted by John View PostTo keep this thread on topic I have moved the subsequent discussion on European NGV's to a new thread in the "Other NGV" Forum. Please follow it there:
I have somewhere in my bookmarks two home CNG compressor products... one from the UK and another from the Netherlands. Anyone know of them?
From what I could see, their units are not exactly inexpensive.
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Does anyone have information about the three stage hydraulic compressor (of their own design) which Eco-Fueler says it will be including with each of the 3-wheeled Roadsters it sells? The 1.25 GGE/hr compressor has a retail value of $3,500, but it's not clear if the unit is actually in production or has AGA Design Certification.
Is Eco-Fuel's Roadster in production yet?
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Originally posted by BiggJohn View PostDoes anyone have information about the three stage hydraulic compressor (of their own design) which Eco-Fueler says it will be including with each of the 3-wheeled Roadsters it sells? The 1.25 GGE/hr compressor has a retail value of $3,500, but it's not clear if the unit is actually in production or has AGA Design Certification.
Is Eco-Fuel's Roadster in production yet?
http://www.eco-fueler.com/about/our_technology.html
The last start up I invested in that operated like this company ended up with the FBI involved and a write off on my tax's. They won't sell the compressor, other than in conjunction with the car. I spoke to them about a commercial sized compressor for my station 2 years ago and it was 3 times more expensive than a standard compressor.
They promise great things but so far haven't delivered on a single one... they make cool cars for the auto shows though, but good luck ever getting one of their cars or compressors.
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Their web site doesn't say anything about including a compressor with the Eco-fueler. And, IT'S NOT A CAR!!! It's a motorcycle with a shell. That's how it can access the HOV lane without being on the ARB 'list' and getting stickers. $20,000 is an awful lot for a motorcycle, even with a CNG compressor.02 GX
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One intresting note..
When I was doing research on conversion kits from foreign countries,one thing they always wanted to sell me was some type of home filling stations.I should of asked them for any informationLast edited by diesel-ongas; 05-30-2008, 12:20 AM.
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