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  • Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

    Okay,

    I want to get a fill for which bi-fuel conversion is the best. Is it Chevy's Impco kit, Ford's GFI/Compuvalve, Baytech, BAF, FuelTek, EcoFuel (Non EPA), Technocarb (Non EPA), or another?

    I know that there are pros and cons to each one, but which do you like the best?

    If you choose "other" please state the kit manufacturer.
    In light of how to vote on which kit is the best please use the following points of importance

    1. Reliability/Dependability
    2. Availability (Parts/Service)
    3. Cost (Do not include price of tank, but include cost of replacement parts)
    4. Performance (Compare this to the gasoline performance)
    13
    Impco (Chevy)
    46.15%
    6
    GFI/Compuvalve (Ford)
    0.00%
    0
    Baytech
    15.38%
    2
    BAF
    0.00%
    0
    FuelTek
    7.69%
    1
    Other
    30.77%
    4
    Last edited by Highmarker; 10-04-2008, 05:48 PM.
    Jared.
    Mountain Green, Utah
    2003 CNG Cavalier
    2003 CNG Silverado 2500HD

  • #2
    Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

    Why are we discussing non-EPA kits?

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    • #3
      Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

      Originally posted by Curtis View Post
      Why are we discussing non-EPA kits?
      Kinda' begs the question, doesn't it. If a kit is non-EPA there is no way to tell how well it is supposed to perform because the manufacturer did not do the necessary testing. Highmarker, can you give the forum what you mean by "better"? What criteria are important to you?
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      • #4
        Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

        I'll give you my criterion. No exhorbitantly priced or hard to find parts. We have a 2003 Cavalier which doesn't have the dreaded gas mass flow sensor, so I think I picked well for us. Ford has the dreaded compuvalve and I don't know the Achilles heels of Baytech or BAF conversions.
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        • #5
          Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

          Eco has many previously epa certified kits, they work the same now as they did when they were certified, the EPA is lame with a 1 year expiration on certs.
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          • #6
            Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

            Originally posted by CNGLO View Post
            Kinda' begs the question, doesn't it. If a kit is non-EPA there is no way to tell how well it is supposed to perform because the manufacturer did not do the necessary testing. Highmarker, can you give the forum what you mean by "better"? What criteria are important to you?
            Sorry, I do not want to make this confusing. I have ammended the first post in this thread to include some guidelines for voting. Also, to answer Curtis's question "why are we discussing non-EPA kits?" The thought did cross my mind not to include them, but then we would have people chiming in and voicing their concern about why they were not included in the poll. Also, if they are voted as pieces of junk, then so much the better. Just because a kit is not EPA certified does not mean that is not dependable and unsafe. It just means that it is illegal. If they are as good as people say they are, then it should be just another reason to the kit manufacturers to get them certified.
            Jared.
            Mountain Green, Utah
            2003 CNG Cavalier
            2003 CNG Silverado 2500HD

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            • #7
              Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

              As far as I know BAF has no bi-fuel systems, all dedicated.

              The Fueltek Bi fuel F250 / F350 uses an ecofuels system - it rules, VERY popular in the fleet markets now.

              No first hand experience on Impco but I have a few customers running it and so far so good, seems to be solid.

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              • #8
                Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

                because they are out there and will not go away just by sticking ones head in the sand and many good products are out there that burn clean and work well and I dont think you nead epa cert for off road ie coal mines gravel pits and such when one censures info everyone looses

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                • #9
                  Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

                  I agree that the forum should not ignore non-certified kits since they are obvously being purchased and used as evidenced by the number of them listed on the web. I don't think a poll that includes them is promoting them. If they are junk, then those people browsing this forum need to know. The forum would be doing them a service by saving them some hard earned cash. I believe a little education never hurts.
                  Last edited by Curtis; 10-08-2008, 04:38 PM. Reason: Modified reference to where to buy illegal conversion kits
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                  • #10
                    Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

                    Promote: to encourage the sales, acceptance, etc., of (a product), esp. through advertising or other publicity.

                    Discussions, polls, arguements, URL's listed, etc are promoting illegal activity. Site rules dictate that we don't do this here. To acknowledge them gives them validity. Granted, if there was something dangerous out there we'd all hear about it on the 11:00 news... you'd find it here in the "In The News" forum, with the other such references.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

                      I put them (Non EPA certified kits) on the poll to compare them to EPA certified kits. I have no intention of promoting them. If you would like me to remove them from the poll, I will.
                      Jared.
                      Mountain Green, Utah
                      2003 CNG Cavalier
                      2003 CNG Silverado 2500HD

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                      • #12
                        Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

                        well either they aren't doing to well or everyone who put them on has blown up. because they aren't ranking very high. i say just leave it be.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

                          I don't think you can modify a poll after posting it. I tried it once and had no luck. Let it ride.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

                            I modified the poll to not include non EPA kits.
                            Jared.
                            Mountain Green, Utah
                            2003 CNG Cavalier
                            2003 CNG Silverado 2500HD

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                            • #15
                              Re: Which Bi-Fuel Conversion Is The Best?

                              Curtis, thanks for siting the rules related to appropriate discussions, polls, etc.

                              I have a question related to a customer who wants a CNG conversion for a 2007 Ford F250 diesel. Is there a dedicated kit? or Do you have to do a blend 80% CNG and 20% diesel? Which company and distributors are available?

                              And do you know of any reliable tank companies?

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