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    Just posting an update on the Gasser project that Wayne and Boots over at Daytech Auto in Fairfield Ca and I are building. The all aluminum LS-7 427 CI engine was just finished, it is a very heavily modified from its stock configuration, capable of over 650 HP. Engine management is controlled by a late model GM processor, which integrates the TCI paddle, shifted 6 speed Automatic transmission. Brakes are custom, 4 wheel disc are controlled by a traction control ABS module which is integrated into the GM processor. Wheels are made from Carbon Fiber, steering is made via electronic assist. Body is painted Lamborghini Green, This is sure to spawn a frenzy, its already known for starting a CNG trend in the Hot Rod classic car side of the world, Wayne and I are very proud of this accomplishment and the vehicle will be on display at the AFVi Trade show in Las Vegas, May 9-12. If you are in that neck of the woods come check us out, along with vehicles our NatrualDrive booth! Information and pictures can be found at www.hotrodtime.com/gasser
    Last edited by John Mitton; 04-16-2010, 10:35 PM.

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    Re: "Gasser" CNG Hot Rod nearly complete

    Thanks for the update, Kevin. Any chance of getting it out to "Thunder" this year for the Cruise-In? Sure would be nice to show up all those gas guzzling muscle cars!
    Last edited by Curtis; 04-17-2010, 12:02 AM.

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      Re: "Gasser" CNG Hot Rod nearly complete

      Hey Kevin,

      I like your choice of names. You should know that you're following in the footsteps of one of the early NG pioneer dragsters, Joe Mesquita, from East Ohio Gas in Akron, OH. He held a National (?) (maybe Regional) title in Super Modified on Natrual Gas. His was named 'Natural Gasser'. The logo on the back said, "Hauls your ashes and cooks your buns!"

      He ran a big block as well, back in the '90's. At the time very little was know about natrual gas and it gave the fuel testing stations fits. When I interviewed Joe and asked what he'd done differently to run on NG, he said, "I don't know I just drive it. You'll have to ask the engine builder." So, I went down to Columbus to talk with the shop foreman at JEGS and asked him the same thing. His response was I just built an big block Chevy. I didn't know what fuel they were gonna use." But, he went on to say that the CR was a little over 12:1 which explained its performance.

      Good luck!

      afvman/Bill
      Last edited by afvman; 04-17-2010, 04:26 PM. Reason: spelling...what else

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        Re: "Gasser" CNG Hot Rod nearly complete

        Hi, Thanks Bill and Curtis! I guess the main goal of this, will be to show what can be done with CNG on the performance side of the world. I'm not sure what the schedule will be for the Gasser, we'll talk about the cruse in and see if we can get it down there. I've been waiting on getting some new pics uploaded on the website, should have some up soon. Wayne just got the exhaust back from the coating comany, its a custom set of lake pipes coated in titaninum that has 2 catalyst substrates inside. Whats cool about this, we'll have pre and post wide bands on it, giving me the ability to have a fully operating OBD system on this!! We are targeting bin-2 or 3 emission levels on this, while getting 35+ MPG on the freeway.

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          Re: "Gasser" CNG Hot Rod nearly complete

          That's awesome Kevin. I cant wait to see it! 650 horses and 35 MPG on CNG is CRAZY! I wouldn't believe it could be done.

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            Re: "Gasser" CNG Hot Rod nearly complete

            Hello Kevin good job the car looks clean .I to am building a CNG racer as I have posted before I do VW Turbo conversions. I just finished my lattes 2001 VW CNG BI-Fuel 1.8L Turbo Beetle. I used this one as a test plate form for my next one witch will be a full street/road race model.

            The nice thing of these VW 1.8L Turbo setups you can make 300HP+ with Just a head change from a earlier engine a bigger turbo and few add-on’s and a set of piston/rod kit( not needed if you stay at 300HP) But plan to push the build to the limit 650+ HP latter.

            My CNG delivery system will be the same as my lattes CNG VW using my CNG Fogger
            And few added tricks.
            IF you need any help on the engine build feel free to email me
            Here are some pic of my car.
            Engine lay out

            Here is the news Beetle


            Bob Mann
            www.CNGVW.com

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              Re: "Gasser" CNG Hot Rod nearly complete

              something tells me that you might be getting closer to 3.5 MPG when dipping into the 650 HP... 35 MPG measurement is likely only if lightly cruising in a serious overdrive 6th gear, basically idleing at freeway speeds I can hardly wait to see the finished product!
              2008 GX (extended range, trunkless version)
              Polished Metal Metallic 2012 Civic Natural Gas
              Fuelmaker FMQ-2-36 (since 2001)
              Previously owned: 2000 GX (11 years), 1995 Bi-fuel Sonoma, 2000 Bifuel Tahoe, 2000 Bi-fuel F150

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                Re: "Gasser" CNG Hot Rod nearly complete

                One of the performance magazines I write freelance tech articles for wants to build and run articles about the build a street rod/hot rod with a CNG powered engine. Thier preference is a new crate Ford v-8 engine, is there a prefered CNG conversion system that they should use and can anyone recommend a engine tuner/builder in the southern California area that would like to work on a project like this?

                Thanks Henry @ olescarb e-mail [email protected]

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                • #9
                  Re: "Gasser" CNG Hot Rod nearly complete

                  I would highly recommend you speak to the fellas building the hot rod this thread is about. He's in Phoenix, but he's the resident expert on your request.

                  contact:
                  Kevin Fern
                  President AFVTech Inc.
                  CTO NaturalDrive Partners LLC
                  13765 W Auto Drive #122
                  Goodyear, AZ 85338
                  623-925-1534 AFVTech Office
                  602-288-9026 NaturalDrive Office
                  480-600-5804 Cell

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                    Re: "Gasser" CNG Hot Rod nearly complete

                    Curtis, Thank You I will forward this to the editor i of the magazine

                    Henry @ olescarb

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                      Re: "Gasser" CNG Hot Rod nearly complete

                      Curtis do you have a e-mail address for Kevin?

                      Thanks Again Henry @ olescarb

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                        Re: "Gasser" CNG Hot Rod nearly complete

                        olescarb et al,

                        Does anyone know if Don Bass is still around? He was IMPCO's first employee and retired to do just gaseous fuel high performance engine work. He'd be perfect for your project if he's available.

                        Best regards,

                        afvman/Bill

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                          Re: "Gasser" CNG Hot Rod nearly complete

                          Hello I have my CNG VW Beetle 1.8 turbo up and running will be pusing the 500HP marker on the street very soon on CNG. This is a daily ride too. Henry if you need any info on it just let me know.
                          Bob Mann
                          www.CNGVW.com
                          [email protected]

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