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  • #16
    Re: Anyone for Rate-base Regulation?????

    Don't be fooled. It've heard rumors that CE is using their attorneys to stifle competition. Just ask the owner of California Clean Fuels, the company operating the CNG station on Woodruff in Bellflower . . .

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    • #17
      Re: Anyone for Rate-base Regulation?????

      I've asked PUC attorneys about CNG suppliers.

      The PUC doesn't regulate fuel suppliers, they are regulated by CARB.

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      • #18
        Re: Anyone for Rate-base Regulation?????

        Originally posted by Tax Counsel View Post
        Don't be fooled. It've heard rumors that CE is using their attorneys to stifle competition. Just ask the owner of California Clean Fuels, the company operating the CNG station on Woodruff in Bellflower . . .
        This is hardly the site to talk 'rumors' of such a sort. If the owner of California Clean Fuels, who you must have talked to, has any details, we'd love to hear them, but when we're trying to actually get stuff done around here, it's hard if we don't have real information.
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        • #19
          Re: Anyone for Rate-base Regulation?????

          I know the guy who is renting the equipment to the station that Steve was suppose to install until CE stuck there fingers in to it.

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          • #20
            Re: Anyone for Rate-base Regulation?????

            My question is, WHAT did CE do to 'stick their fingers in it'? and how was it unfair business practices.. trust me, we ALL dislike CE here, but we can't talk in hints and rumors.
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            • #21
              Re: Anyone for Rate-base Regulation?????

              A south Orange County school district is going to install a privet station with out going out to compitive bid. CE got wind of it and had one of there lackies at AQMD cancel the funding tell it went out to competitive bid.

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              • #22
                Re: Anyone for Rate-base Regulation?????

                A CE attorney "contacted" one of our group members for voicing an opinion.

                Strange thing was the member was actutally pro CE.
                CH

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                • #23
                  Re: Anyone for Rate-base Regulation?????

                  Originally posted by cngmike View Post
                  A south Orange County school district is going to install a privet station with out going out to compitive bid. CE got wind of it and had one of there lackies at AQMD cancel the funding tell it went out to competitive bid.
                  So the unfair business practices you are claiming they are taking part in is actually them trying to make sure the school district properly obeys their bidding/purchasing policy? Yes, it is a bit of a d!ck move, but they are in the right here. Besides, if it is a private station, who cares if CE operates it? If they can provide the station for cheaper than others, wouldn't they be the best option for the school district? That's what the bidding process is all about.

                  And if part of CE's bid is them making the station public, I still fail to see how an overpriced CE public station would be worse than a non-CE run private station. I wouldn't want CE to do it, but I sure wish the private CNG station at my school district was public, even as a close-to-home backup station.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Anyone for Rate-base Regulation?????

                    So all they have to do is put a clause in the bit that the public price will be ... with ... being something like the following.

                    The price of natural gas plus costs plus fixed amount for profit.

                    The same price plus n as what the district pays.

                    Something equally good or better.

                    I'm sure they can come up with something.
                    John

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                    • #25
                      Re: Anyone for Rate-base Regulation?????

                      Read the original post. AQMD pulled the funding because it was going "with out" competitive bidding. CE was about to get yet another 'sweet deal' at taxpayer expense when AQMD stopped them. Sounds like they did the right thing.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Anyone for Rate-base Regulation?????

                        Originally posted by freedml View Post
                        Read the original post. AQMD pulled the funding because it was going "with out" competitive bidding. CE was about to get yet another 'sweet deal' at taxpayer expense when AQMD stopped them. Sounds like they did the right thing.
                        If that is the case, then perhaps cngmike's post is worded incorrectly, he wrote:
                        Originally posted by cngmike View Post
                        A south Orange County school district is going to install a privet station with out going out to compitive bid. CE got wind of it and had one of there lackies at AQMD cancel the funding tell it went out to competitive bid.
                        This, at least to me, means that the School District was attempting to have someone install a private station. CE saw this, and brought it up to ensure that the District went through the bidding process (Presumably, CE hoped to win the bid). This is not unfair, in fact, it is the district's policy. If this is not the case, please correct me.

                        Also, things like this should not be discussed in generalities either. This is what makes groups like this forum start to lose credability. Using 'A south Orange County school district' instead of stating the actual district does nothing but degrade the potential strength of the statement.
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