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  • #31
    Re: CNG vs LPG?

    The burnoffs are happening all over the world. I while back I saw a chart somewhere online that listed all the countries and it was a lot of CH4.
    I will post it If I come across it again.
    BLUE 09 GX

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    • #32
      Re: CNG vs LPG?

      Originally posted by Dmitry View Post
      So this is where I get confused - why is the same fuel + road tax actually less expensive by close to 30%? Where does that extra dollar come from - to pay the guy who is filling up the bottles?
      Yep.

      And is there any resource we can use to locate the "motor fuel" LPG stations? I've been searching online, but all kinds of "U-haul" type places pop up.

      I realize this is CNG forum, but maybe the fight between CNG and LPG is not over. In consumer terms it makes more sense to spend less now. I vote LPG. I am sure vendors are here, can anybody quote me an LPG conversion of a Crown Victoria? [/quote]

      Turncoat... we may have to give you a time out for that one...

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      • #33
        Re: CNG vs LPG?

        Curtis, is that the good cop or the bad cop in you talking? But don't choke your car salesman self, I am sure it's burning you to get an LPG Civic. Maybe if Toyota comes up with one, your higher will be more willing... Ooops, they already did http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Crown_Comfort_LPG

        Too bad US auto makers are protected from market forces. If only Japanese could sell their vans over here (Toyota Hiace, Nissan Caravan), the pickup pillar would crush, and man that would be a rude awakening. We need a cultural revolution. Bring it on! Today I bought 89 gas at $4.55. Bring it on!

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        • #34
          Re: CNG vs LPG?

          Originally posted by Dmitry View Post
          Curtis, is that the good cop or the bad cop in you talking? But don't choke your car salesman self, I am sure it's burning you to get an LPG Civic. Maybe if Toyota comes up with one, your higher will be more willing... Ooops, they already did http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Crown_Comfort_LPG

          Too bad US auto makers are protected from market forces. If only Japanese could sell their vans over here (Toyota Hiace, Nissan Caravan), the pickup pillar would crush, and man that would be a rude awakening. We need a cultural revolution. Bring it on! Today I bought 89 gas at $4.55. Bring it on!
          Like I said, I have an LPG car, as well as cng. LPG is definitely a cheaper conversion but in Ca you just can't get the kits for the same reason that the cng kits aren't widely available... four letters... starting with C.A.R.B.
          Besides, I'm not a car salesman, I'm an automotive buyers consultant. Just ask my customers. And how did you know I used to be a cop?

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          • #35
            Re: CNG vs LPG?

            Oh, you were a cop? Then maybe you can tell me what is tampering with emissions system - an misdemeanor? Don't you physically have to see it done to be able to arrest somebody, let alone impound the vehicle?

            Every once in a while, I see something for sale on Craigslist that runs on propane (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/car/706446694.html) So if I buy it, and it was not properly certified before installation, shall I be liable?

            Don't get me wrong, I am all pro the rule of law. But the more expensive the fuel, the greater length people will go to improve their livelihoods. The more pressure on society to change, CARB included.

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            • #36
              Re: CNG vs LPG?

              Originally posted by Dmitry View Post
              Oh, you were a cop? Then maybe you can tell me what is tampering with emissions system - an misdemeanor? Don't you physically have to see it done to be able to arrest somebody, let alone impound the vehicle?
              Couldn't begin to answer that... I wasn't a DMV cop, just a beat cop in Phoenix. You didn't have to smog your car then...

              Originally posted by Dmitry View Post
              Every once in a while, I see something for sale on Craigslist that runs on propane (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/car/706446694.html) So if I buy it, and it was not properly certified before installation, shall I be liable?
              It depends on the DMV regs in your state. In Ca you could bring it in from another state but it better pass smog.

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