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  • larrycng
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    Yes, engine changes can be the same year or newer (can't go back). They must have all emission equipment they had when they left the factory (achieve certification) and it must be fully operational. Catalytic converters are required as well as evaporative system, (had those since '71 in calif, '73 federal I believe), computers, check engine light, etc.

    Unless your 383 is a Mopar, it ain't legal -- but it is a nice package and they do run.


    larrycng

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  • BRodri
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    actually it's only illegal if the engine wasn't offered by that make. in a car similar to that and i think it has to be the same year engine or newer. so in fact he could do that without any worries.

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  • josch
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    By the way, upsizing your motor from 350 to 383 is illegal as well (as far as the EPA is concerned). Discussion of this material violates the TOS of this forum. We wont be discussing illegal activity on this forum.

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  • josch
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    Originally posted by Curtis View Post
    I saw the Rousch truck in Vegas, pretty cool. I'm mid way through converting my 79 Elky to propane. Had to stop when I blew the 350 but have since dropped a 383 stroker into it. Gas prices immediately skyrocketed so I have been driving the GX exclusively as of late. I'll keep my fingers crossed when it's time to smog it again... dread...
    Propane in Ca seems to be limited to heavy trucks. Haven't seen anything else since the 70's. IMPCO is the king of LPG. They had a way cool converted Mustang in Vegas that they drove up from Texas, I think he said.
    Was that an EPA certified conversion you were doing on your elky? I thought EPA certified conversions were supposed to be done by factory trained installers? You were DIY'ing it? Oh wait, could this have perhaps been an 'illegal' conversion? Last I checked, 1979 cars are still governed by the clean air act.

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  • larrycng
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    Check out the Rousch Propane F-150. Liquid LP injection similiar to what Ford did around with about 25 Excursions around 2000. There is a pump built into the tank. It looks like a nice system, BUT it is not legal for sale in CA. It is about a $10,000 up fit. It has a small toridal tank that takes the place of the spare tire or an optional 60 gal in bed tank.

    Mama won't let me have any more toys

    larrycng

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  • afvman
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    et al,

    The new website you need for the Roush F-150 is: http://www.propanetruck.us/

    But don't get your hopes up. I think the ordering window has closed.

    If you want the latest information on this program contact:

    Greg Zilberfarb
    3203 Greenstone Way
    Oak Hill, Virginia 20171
    O: 703-779-4890
    H: 703-435-6744
    C: 703-626-4628
    [email protected]

    He's the guy that started the whole project.

    B/R,

    afvman/Bill

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  • darress
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    Factory installed LPG bifuel systems were made for the f250 and f150hd at the same time the CNG bifuel trucks were made. They are out there and usually less than the CNG equipped versions.

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  • cngaz
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    So far have not found any AZ Ford dealers signing on for the BAF CNG Conversions yet. Salesman called me from Sandersons trying to sell me the
    Rouch Propane Truck this week, said he had several in stock. But no they did not plan to offer CNG. Told him too bad, it felt like Ford had abandoned us, good bye.

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  • dkellas
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    I was at Sanderson Ford's commercial truck office (in Glendale Arizona) a week ago and they had two brand new f-series pickups with Rouch propane conversions. The sales agent said that they were a $12,000.00 option. I was trying to get info as to the cng conversions through BAF that I had heard about, so I didn't get any more info.

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  • xravenwingsx
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    All prices that I've seen in UT were 63.9 cents/gge

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  • larrycng
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    I'm running LP on a '97 F250 HD with a 460 for about 9 years. Use in for pulling a 28 ft 5th wheel trailer. Works great if the price of propane is less than 75% of gasoline. Propane is running aboutn $2.50 per gal out the door up here in Washington. The tank is a dual manifolded 10" by 60" with 40 gal water capacity. Good for 160 to 190 miles pulling (16,500 lb) and around 270 to 300 miles solo.

    I'm using the "new version" of the OHG mixer and X-1 vaporizer/regulator (put out by Marilyn Miller from Babberstock's old cores), dual curve interface box for the OBD II tie-in. Need to do a little air bleed trim on the dithering valve to keep the feed back system in working range. On the dyne 178 hp @3600 on gasoline. Flipped the switch, stabilized the system, a pulled 172 hp @3600 on LP. Emissions were about the some for HC and CO, NOx was about 30% lower, and CO2 was just under 13% on LP and a just under 15% on gas.

    Let's get the price motor fuel down.

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  • jetboatjohnny
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    I'm not in Utah, but here in CA it is around 2.29 last time I looked.

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  • irteachre
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    I have a propane powered (bi-fuel) Ford 7700 pickup. I'm planning on converting it to cng unless I sell it first. Propane in Utah is too expensive.

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  • aDreamSoReal
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    http://www.ecofuel.com/default.aspx

    www.technocarb.com

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  • Techie
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    Originally posted by Dmitry View Post
    I know Toyota is producing taxi (model YXS10) for domestic market, running on 2 liter propane engine (3y-pe). I think it's the same engine that was installed in earlier Toyota Vans sold in US and forklifts. For pics and info http://autorama.jp/nmauto/eshopitem....TAXI+CAR&mi=68

    Unfortunately, importing a car to US is not feasible, otherwise we'd have tons of Japanese Domestic Models here, never mind the right hand drive. In Russia this is huge, and people love them. I know in Canada you can import if the car is over 15 years old, but I've heard this is about to change.

    To answer your question, yes, once in a while I see propane cars on Craigslist in SF Bay area, but nothing consistent.
    Thank you for your input, that Toyota is awesome!

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