1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

[goodforyou]

Our 1999 GX just quit going down the road. It wouldn't even crank, however, all of the gauges came on (strongly), just will not start.
Took it to the dealer (towed it on a trailer) and they said they couldn't put it on a computer but we need a new tank because the solenoid valve was bad...charged us $175 and nothing to show for it. Also said it would cost around $6000 to replace... Am I paranoid or are we being jerked around?

[Lakewood90712]

Re: 1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

Some have gone bad, and Honda has replaced some out of warranty free of charge. Call Honda customer service , be polite , remember the person on the phone has to hear from angry people all day , every day.

[MR CNG]

Re: 1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

Doesn't sound like a fuel issue at this point if it won't even crank over.

Tell the dealer to get it to crank first before they just start randomly replacing parts.

[ajgiorgi]

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Do you mean you were driving it and it suddenly died or did you park and turn it off and then it wouldn't crank after trying to start it again? Maybe the starter went out?

[goodforyou]

Re: 1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

Also, they said they couldn't put it on the computer because it kept popping a fuse. One thing about having a cng vehicle, in Oklahoma you only have one game in town so you're pretty much screwed. This vehicle has been put on a computer before at a different dealership (actually, we've done it at home with one rented from Auto Zone, too.) They referred us to this other place and I didn't trust these guys when I walked through the door. But like I said, they are the only game in town. *sigh*

[thelimeyone]

Re: 1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

i dont think putting it onto a computer will help you diagnose a cranking problem anyway. if theres no power, the solenoid wont operate. just treat it like a normal car. it only becomes a cng car at the fuel delivery. everything else is pretty standard

[thelimeyone]

Re: 1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

ill buy it from you as is, and ship it myself

[Lakewood90712]

Re: 1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

Please do not post your pers. info such as pivate phone numbers or e mail address . Spambots are all over and you could find your info on the net in places you would regret .

We have no problem at all with an offer to buy , Just send a PM to the member

Thank You.

Forum Staff.

[goodforyou]

Re: 1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

We were driving down the road about 30mph and it was like someone hit a kill switch. Kinda creepy, really. We put it into neutral to restart while we were still rolling and it wouldn't restart. We coasted to a parking lot where we tried to restart it and it wouldn't crank at all. The gauges all come on though.

Main relay problem maybe?! What would cause the starter and the flow of natural gas to shut off at the same time?

As far as the offer on our car, I don't think you'd want it. It's got 177,000 miles on it! We're not quite ready to give up on it yet. We've even thought about towing it out to Utah or California where they work on these cars all of the time. I've only seen about 3 Honda gxs in the entire state, so I have doubts that these guys at the Honda dealership even know what they're doing.

[smartineau]

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1999 Honda GX Starter circuit.
Power comes through underhood fuse #42 travels through Wht/blk wire to Ignition switch. Leaves switch on Blk/wht wire to transmission switch. In P or N it leaves trans switch on Bk/red wire to starter solenoid. Voltage values on tests?
Tell me which fuse blows & I can tell you what it feeds and possible causes. Are you technical enough for me to help you? Do you have a good multimeter to run voltage and voltage drop tests? Do you have a service manual or a wiring diagram?
Stan M.

[ajgiorgi]

Re: 1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

Isn't there a guy on the forum from OK that works on these or at least can point you in the right direction as far as mechanics. I think his name is Tom from Tulsa Energy?

[goodforyou]

Re: 1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

Unfortunatelly, the dealership didn't specify which fuse was blowing. Honestly, I don't think they even tried to test it properly because we couldn't get a straight answer to "What did you do to determine this?"

I am semi-technical...We do have wiring diagrams and my husband does have a good multimeter. I do understand what you're telling me and I will follow up with you. Thank You!

[goodforyou]

Re: 1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

Yes, we know Tom (Sewell is his last name.) He is difficult to get ahold of. He is supposed to be in tomorrow, so we're going to see what he says also. I think he's mainly into Fuel Makers though. I don't know how much he will be able to help with troubleshooting on the car. Have you dealt with him??

[ajgiorgi]

Re: 1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

No I haven't dealt with tom before, but I think at least he might be able to give you info on another mechanic. I don't think he works on them, but you never know.

[goodforyou]

Re: 1999 GX question... rip off or legit?

I talked to the mechanic today...he said it was fuse #13 (which I believe is the Fuel Pump?) then he said it may have been #12 (door locks or windows?). I am failing to see where this proves we need a $6000 tank. He also said he disconnected something (either the tank or the regulator) and got the car to crank. I looked up some ngv diagrams and I think what we need to possibly replace are the eletronic aspects on the tank, not the actual tank itself. I don't know the technical name for it. Also, I'm going to investigate the fuel pump thing further...could this be as simple as a cng fuel filter?