Some of the information on this 2007 post is OUTDATED.
* Federal tax credit has expired and no California tax credits exist today
* All Utah Honda dealers offer the Civic Natural Gas (formerly Civic GX)
* Fuelmaker is now owned by BRC IMPCO http://www.impcoautomotive.com/index...name=fuelmaker
Honda has been shipping the Civic GX since 1997 to government fleets and are now promoting it to the general consumer market along with the "Phill" in-garage fueling equipment from Fuelmaker of Canada -- a company in which American Honda has a significant equity stake. If you are looking for a new natural gas vehicle, especially one for commuting around town, the Civic GX is great. Ken Garff Honda Downtown does a thriving business here in Utah (tell Ron Brown that CNGchat.com sent you!). In California there are many dealers who carry the GX. Robertson's Palmdale Honda is very committed (ask for Curtis Martin), in fact they installed a CNG fill station at the dealership!
New Civic GX's qualify for a $4,000 federal tax credit. Here in Utah, and California also enjoy a $3,000 state tax credit too, making it a comparable cost to a gasoline fueled Civic LX. Oklahoma also has generous tax credits too.
Used GX's often come up on eBay (search for "CNG" or "NGV") and dealer lots as a result of government auctions. Be aware that there are no incentives beyond the fuel savings for used CNG vehicles in California. You can also find them on CraigsList.org (try Southern and Northern California). If you want a used one, be aware that the 2001 model year has serious transmission problems. Honda went from a 5 speed automatic to a CVT (continuously variable transmission), which in most every case needed replacement. The CVT continued through the 2005 model year with progressively better transmissions being installed each year. In 2006 Honda went back to the 5 speed automatic. There is a warranty extension for 2003-2005 GX's that covers Judder/Slip.
See the service thread in the main forum for details. So I recommend you pass on model years 2001 to 2003, even if the transmission has been rebuilt.
* Federal tax credit has expired and no California tax credits exist today
* All Utah Honda dealers offer the Civic Natural Gas (formerly Civic GX)
* Fuelmaker is now owned by BRC IMPCO http://www.impcoautomotive.com/index...name=fuelmaker
Honda has been shipping the Civic GX since 1997 to government fleets and are now promoting it to the general consumer market along with the "Phill" in-garage fueling equipment from Fuelmaker of Canada -- a company in which American Honda has a significant equity stake. If you are looking for a new natural gas vehicle, especially one for commuting around town, the Civic GX is great. Ken Garff Honda Downtown does a thriving business here in Utah (tell Ron Brown that CNGchat.com sent you!). In California there are many dealers who carry the GX. Robertson's Palmdale Honda is very committed (ask for Curtis Martin), in fact they installed a CNG fill station at the dealership!
New Civic GX's qualify for a $4,000 federal tax credit. Here in Utah, and California also enjoy a $3,000 state tax credit too, making it a comparable cost to a gasoline fueled Civic LX. Oklahoma also has generous tax credits too.
Used GX's often come up on eBay (search for "CNG" or "NGV") and dealer lots as a result of government auctions. Be aware that there are no incentives beyond the fuel savings for used CNG vehicles in California. You can also find them on CraigsList.org (try Southern and Northern California). If you want a used one, be aware that the 2001 model year has serious transmission problems. Honda went from a 5 speed automatic to a CVT (continuously variable transmission), which in most every case needed replacement. The CVT continued through the 2005 model year with progressively better transmissions being installed each year. In 2006 Honda went back to the 5 speed automatic. There is a warranty extension for 2003-2005 GX's that covers Judder/Slip.
See the service thread in the main forum for details. So I recommend you pass on model years 2001 to 2003, even if the transmission has been rebuilt.
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