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    I was south bound on I77 in nc and passed a pepsi truck class8 that had stickers that it was powered by hydrogen but I saw no tank other than a diesel tank and the stack was black and it smelled like diesel must be a scam to get goverment money or it did not work and they jerked the hydrogen moter out and put in a diesel rather than junk the truck.

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    http://www.dynamicfuel.com/ The co. supplying the H2 equipment for Pepsi. IMHO , lot's of sizzle, and not much steak.

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      Hydrogen makes no economic sense to me. Unless you are using wind or solar to create the hydrogen. It is a handy way to save the energy. I don't know how it would compare to the value of electricity. I don't think that it can compete with natural gas for base power.

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        Originally posted by Lakewood90712 View Post
        http://www.dynamicfuel.com/ The co. supplying the H2 equipment for Pepsi. IMHO , lot's of sizzle, and not much steak.
        I got a mason jar and some ss plates now I need a the float out of a crapperLOL so my browns gas generator will stay filled up hard to think of pepsi getting caught in a scam like this this is nothing new and it is false to put powerd by hydrogen on the side of the truck as the power came from the diesel fuel to make the hydrogen.

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          Originally posted by Ron Wagner View Post
          Hydrogen makes no economic sense to me. Unless you are using wind or solar to create the hydrogen. It is a handy way to save the energy. I don't know how it would compare to the value of electricity. I don't think that it can compete with natural gas for base power.
          While I am totally in favor of CNG cars (our group has 6 Civics), I am told by sources at Honda that it is more efficient to convert NG into H2 and run it thru a fuel cell than to burn it in a ICE engine. I am getting 62 mpg average, with a high of 70mpg with the fuel cell car. Most of the time I fill with H2 made at the local Shell station, from water, using "green electricity".

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            You are driving a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle? I am all for it, if it is more economical overall. I know Toyota is interested in hydrogen vehicles. I don't see it becoming economical in my lifetime. The price of the vehicle has to be very high. Dedicated and wealthy environmentalists would buy some. Hopefully the price would come down rapidly.

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              Hydrogen will never be. Look at CNG, I've been driving CNG vehicles for 15 years and I have only seen it fade away here in AZ.
              We are down to two fueling stations in the east valley here. It was down to one untill Waste Management just built one.

              There are millions of drivers here and maybe at a guess around 400 people with home fueling appliances.

              Its too expensive with no payback. By the time your even the vehicle tank is expired.
              Last edited by Johnlaroux; 09-07-2012, 04:14 PM.

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                You guys should listen to my 9/16/12 radio show. I'll be interviewing the Hydrogen Fuel Cell Partnership. Hydrogen has actually been a booming business for the past few years, and in some ways you wouldn't expect. The show is 11am - 12pm (PST) at www.BlogTalkRadio.com/CleanCities. Call in and ask questions at 646-200-0100 during the show. Archives can be found lower on the show page, I did a show earlier in the year with Intergalactic Hydrogen's Tai Robinson, a member of this site for many years.
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                  Came across this story about hydrogen fuel:http://www.4-traders.com/AIR-LIQUIDE...apan-14513580/

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                    Main problems of Hydrogen are related to safety. It's extremely reactive and requires a lot of energy spent to be stored in a safe way. Not really so efficient at all...

                    http://engineeringworkarounds.blogsp...ant-dream.html

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                      History has to be considered . . . .
                      Remember the Hindenberg !!

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                        Sorry I missed it, will check for an archive. Got involved in looking for football games.

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                          I came across a new article about a Hyundai hydrogen fuel cell car. http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/27/h...012/#continued . Lots of good discussion after the article. Price seems to be only for the wealthy. No fuel availability.

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                            Ascend Energy and fuel cell manufacturer Atrex Energy have demonstrated the use of a fuel cell to power a hybrid ATV:
                            http://ngtnews.com/ascend-atrex-demo...el-cell-hybrid
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