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  • Ford F150 Now Available as Gaseous Fuel Prep

    http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/07...offer-cng.html

    http://www.clipsheet.ford.com/Articl...n+Natural+Gas+

    http://www.clipsheet.ford.com/Articl...ral+gas+lineup

    http://www.clipsheet.ford.com/Articl...+petroleum+gas

    http://www.clipsheet.ford.com/Articl...+%27Natural%27

    http://www.clipsheet.ford.com/Articl...e+gas+package+

    http://www.clipsheet.ford.com/Articl...G+Prep+Package

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    Re: Ford F150 Now Available as Gaseous Fuel Prep

    Try these news links instead.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...tural-gas.html

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...l-gas/2601565/

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz2abUuZE1E

    http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/07...offer-cng.html

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    • #3
      Re: Ford F150 Now Available as Gaseous Fuel Prep

      Very good news. Now it works out $ on fuel cost vs conversion cost for folks in UT and OK , with cng about $1.50 / gge less than gasoline. Works for other states with home fueling too. Example: Altecheco conversion $7500. 150,000 miles at 15mpg (real world mpg, not estimates published) Fuel cost savings over 150,000 miles (10,000 gallons) $15,000 less conversion, $7,500 net. If gasoline goes up, you save more. For home fuelers, at least it will pay for the FMQ-2 .

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      • #4
        Re: Ford F150 Now Available as Gaseous Fuel Prep

        The following URL suggests that the Altech-Eco F150 conversion price is $6000.

        http://www.altecheco.com/placed_imag...50%20Flier.pdf

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        • #5
          Re: Ford F150 Now Available as Gaseous Fuel Prep

          I think it is great that Ford is doing this. I just wish you could get it with the 5.0 or even better, the eco boost engine.

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          • #6
            Re: Ford F150 Now Available as Gaseous Fuel Prep

            At present, there are two entities with a 2013 5.0L EPA Certificate of Compliance: Powerfuel CNG and NatGasCar. These are both excellently designed bi-fuel systems. They inject 15% gasoline at high load in lieu of having a CNG-prep engine. By keeping the combustion temperatures and pressures at the gasoline level, they avoid the necessity the special valve, piston, and piston ring treatments included in the 3.7L gaseous fuel prep engine. But Ford's 6/60 warranty is in place only for gaseous fuel prep engines. As near as I can tell, no one has ever had a light duty vehicle engine's valves recess within 150,000 miles of use (provided that it was an EPA-approved conversion). Does anyone know differently? Has any experienced low mileage valve recession on an EPA-approved conversion?

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            • #7
              Re: Ford F150 Now Available as Gaseous Fuel Prep

              This should be the deal maker for those who drive a lot. It is not logical to buy gasoline when you can get CNG. The dual fuel ability eliminates the worry of finding CNG. Ford also offers prepped vans, so meets the needs of all but the small vehicle users. It is exciting to me. Will be promoting that Altech-Eco ad.

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              • #8
                Re: Ford F150 Now Available as Gaseous Fuel Prep

                I have to agree with Dearborn on the issue of valve recession.

                I read that even though the ignition temp of CNG is over 1000 degrees, the burn temp is 550 degrees. 50 degrees lower than gasoline.
                That tends to lead me in the direction of the gasoline use standard valves and seats (built for unleaded - hardened valves and seats used since the late 70's is plenty sufficient) for the CNG fuel.

                Maybe the mechanics can chime in here to verify or vilify "the fact"?
                Last edited by Amfuel; 08-05-2013, 10:11 AM.

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                • #9
                  Re: Ford F150 Now Available as Gaseous Fuel Prep

                  I have talked on this many times all engines after 1970 for USA market have hardened seats and valve heads or valves. For unleaded fuels and CNG is in that group. The only upgrade would be in the compression if it was to be a CNG only fuel engine. When dealers or sales people talk of changing parts to run on CNG they are just ripping people off.
                  Bob Mann

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                  • #10
                    Ford QVM Approved CNG Systems:

                    • Ford F-Series Super Duty Truck F-250/350 6.2L

                    • Ford F-Series Truck F-150 5.0L & 3.7L

                    • Ford Transit Connect 2.5L

                    • Ford Transit 3.7L

                    http://www.transecoenergy.com/pages/COC.html


                    Call ALTECH-ECO at 828-654-8300 for information. Ford requires all vehicles have the Gaseous Fuel Prep Engine Package. Your dealer will need to order the vehicle with this package, codes vary per platform (Ex. Trucks=98G and Vans=91G) and cost $315.00. CNG tank and installation costs $10K-15K over base vehicle price of $30K as in the case of the Transit 350 Pass Wagon.

                    TransEco Energy incorporated a subsidiary August 8, 2006, named Altech-Eco Corp, with the state of North Carolina. Located at 101 Fair Oaks Road, Arden, NC 28704. Altech-Eco is registered with EPA and CARB as a Small Volume Manufacturer. Outstanding dealer network includes A-1 Auto Electric in Fresno CA and Lancer in Salt Lake City UT.

                    http://www.transecoenergy.com/pages/dealers.html


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