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  • Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

    Now that the Guymon, OK CNG station is open, I've been thinking about taking a 2 week vacation and visiting an aunt (I've never met) who lives in Pennsylvania. Maybe also visit Gettysburg.

    I think I may have found a viable route (see attached... I'll need to check on the issues highlighted in yellow).

    Any suggestions would be very much appreciated, especially for stops along the way. Otherwise it'd be a very long boring drive... I'll check for Diners, Drive-ins & Dives on the route. Any ideas on sightseeing or dining destinations along the way will help break up the drive. Gary and I both have National Park passes, so we'll probably plan for some stops there too.

    if any other NGV'rs want to meet up along the way, that be great too!

    Thanks in advance for any help on this!
    Evelyn

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    Eastbound Route (29 Jul 2012).jpgWestbound Route (28 Jul 2012).jpg2 Week Cross Country GX Planning (29 Jul 2012).xlsx
    Last edited by eloo; 09-13-2013, 02:55 PM. Reason: Update to CNG station stops; added Louisville, KY to route; remove Trinidad POC
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    Re: Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

    I have been planning a similar trip from Irvine, CA for a Civic GX to drive cross country. I determined that adding a 9 GGE tank to the trunk was the best solution. Your approach is interesting, and the results will the useful to this community.

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    Last edited by Curtis; 07-22-2012, 06:05 PM.

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      Re: Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

      noticed you are coming thru indy sometimes greenes has problems or arent open if so visit our station KAKCO at 4355 lafayette blvd.( only a few miles away) i hope this helps. good luck
      Last edited by Curtis; 07-22-2012, 06:06 PM.

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        Re: Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

        I cant see your route as I am running a old browser that wont download it but if you are comming through tennessee on 40 I will be happy to fill you up
        Last edited by Curtis; 07-22-2012, 06:06 PM.

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          Re: Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

          i have taken my NGV on vacation/nascar a few times and it can be fun . take a GPS and punch in the address of your next CNG station . if its gonna be close dont get off the exit searching for something your GPS says should be there . go for the sure thing right off the exit . know the range of your car .
          cngprices.com now has a trip planner so you can pre-do your route and know if you can make the next station .
          - the station in north east oklahoma (miami) is only a 3000psi and could have poor pressure ,and should be a little more north than what your GPS says
          - the station in springfield mo is new and is only open banker hours - no weekends
          - the station in st louis mo you might have trouble getting fuel at . call ahead on that one for sure .
          - plymouthmeeting pa is NOT a clean n green , its run by peco energy , you can set up an account easy in less than 2 hours as long as you can send them a fax . if not message me a few days before you leave and i can tell you a code to punch in . no charge
          if you can make it another 18 miles you can hit up clean n green in camden nj .
          - some of the stations in eastern north carolina are only open banker hours (8am-3pm) no weekends ..
          take photos of CNG stations along the way and post them on cngprices.com . i did for niagara falls ny / newark n.j. / dover del and others between .
          other tips if its gonna be close . you can hyper-mile and drive 58mph and get more out of it . or when you get fuel , let your tank cool down about 3 hours after getting gas (go grab lunch) and then you can get another 1.5 gge in .
          call ahead to places you think you might have trouble getting fuel at .before you leave

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          Last edited by Curtis; 07-22-2012, 06:06 PM.

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            Re: Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

            Well done Evelyn!

            If you do it.. Keep us involved!

            Chris
            Last edited by Curtis; 07-22-2012, 06:07 PM.

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              Re: Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

              Originally posted by nascrawler View Post
              noticed you are coming thru indy sometimes greenes has problems or arent open if so visit our station KAKCO at 4355 lafayette blvd.( only a few miles away) i hope this helps. good luck
              Thanks for the heads up! I'll add your station to my list.
              Last edited by Curtis; 07-22-2012, 06:07 PM.
              White '09 GX

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                Re: Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

                Originally posted by cowboy View Post
                I cant see your route as I am running a old browser that wont download it but if you are comming through tennessee on 40 I will be happy to fill you up
                Hi cowboy!
                I'm looking at a different route westbound back to Guymon, OK via Nashville and Memphis, TN.
                Gary & I are both big C&W fans, so I figure we need to make a stop somewhere there.
                Will keep you posted as the plan & schedule get finalized (hopefully by the end of the month).
                And thanks for your kind offer.

                Everyone - thanks for your feedback and support. This just might work out.
                Last edited by Curtis; 07-22-2012, 06:07 PM.
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                • #9
                  Re: Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

                  Evelyn, the CNG Across America Road Trip is now officially on the map. Since this trip was the brainchild of 300mileclub and others at the annual CNGChat Cruise-In at Thunder on the Lot this year, CNGChat will be an official sponsor for the trip. John & I will also help coordinate other sponsorships, help bring national media awareness to this trip and make it a smashing success.

                  If we do this in October we can tie it into National AFV Odyssey Day (http://afvdayodyssey.org/), which has its National kick-off (press event) in Indianapolis on October 18th. I can arrange for you to arrive and be a guest speaker at that event to talk about CNG and your journey. I can put on an Odyssey Day Event here in CA to serve as the launch point for the trip and possibly another at your final destination.

                  CNGChat will host your official trip blog and provide a way for members to sign on to caravan with you through various legs of your journey. I'll do a Clean Cities Radio show with you while on the road and help arrange press events along the way.

                  Any one who wishes to sponsor the trip financially, with fuel, media, promotions, or in any way should email me at cm224@juno.com, so I can coordinate everyone's efforts. This is a huge opportunity that reproduces the original Civic GX cross country trek done by American Honda as part of their National kick-off of the Civic GX back in 1998. Read about it here. Sorry to disappoint those of you that thought this was a first.

                  Am I scaring you yet Elayne? In for a penny... in for a pound, right?

                  I am interested in any comments and ideas from our membership on how we can make this a huge success. Just post your ideas right here in this thread.
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                    Re: Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

                    Fabulous idea and likely the MOST PROMINENT Advertising for CNG vehicles that has been done in many years!! Way to go Evelyn!!

                    Only thing I can think of was VW promotion where they had a vehicle just full of cng tanks and range of over 1,000 miles that made a cross-country trek a couple years ago.

                    With Evelyn being one of few women on CNGChat . . . and obviously an avid CNG driver . . . this could do more for CNG sales of Honda Civic GX's (especially to women) than any of Honda's advertising efforts!!

                    Would also recommend all the Facebook, YouTube, etc techie advertising that can be extracted from this effort!!
                    Last edited by Curtis; 07-22-2012, 06:08 PM.

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                    • #11
                      2008 or 2009 GX to make the run getting 50+ mpg if necessary (60 mph 44 psi tires)

                      Though I was at "Thunder in the Desert" with its 60 mph winds this year with jetboatjohnny and eloo talking about a run, it was SCChris in his 10-27-2011 post to the "In the News" thread titled, "New CNG pumps for Okla - Loves" who was the first member to lay down a coast-to-coast route through Guymon, OK.

                      There should have been brass bands out celebrating the opening of this station at the end of June, the date provided by telephone from the Love's clerk this week. Any publicity created for a coast-to-coast attempt can easily beat the lack of any notice that this key CNG station opened for business! Even my dependable CNG news source, Convenience Store News (for truck stops) failed to report it.

                      I'll offer the low rolling resistance (new) Bridgestone B381 tires on alloy rims for the run. And I need to work with my contact at ENCANA to retrieve the listing of private fill stations along the route in case they are needed now that the updated AFDC website no longer shows them (Oregon suddenly went from 19 stations to 2.) Under natural gas, they also map LNG stations:

                      http://www.afdc.energy.gov/
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                        Re: Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

                        Originally posted by andrew c
                        you can hyper-mile and drive 58mph and get more out of it . or when you get fuel , let your tank cool down about 3 hours after getting gas (go grab lunch) and then you can get another 1.5 gge in .
                        Good stuff to know - should put this in a separate thread for travel tips.
                        Last edited by Curtis; 07-22-2012, 06:09 PM.
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                          Re: Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

                          Originally posted by curtis martin
                          Am I scaring you yet Evelyn?
                          Scared? Heck no! Shy? Maybe!

                          I'm not blessed with the gift of gab (alto' my hubby might say otherwise).

                          I was thinking about making this a gal's only road trip, but I think I need to let Gary come along or he'd feel neglected.
                          Not always abiding the speed restrictions, he can make up for time on the stretches where distance between CNG stations is not an issue
                          Plus I can get more shuteye in along the way!

                          Better call me "Ev" (easier to type)
                          Last edited by Curtis; 07-22-2012, 06:09 PM.
                          White '09 GX

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                            Re: Clean Across America & Back 2012 CNG Road Trip

                            Here's an article about the original "Clean Across America - and Back" road trip done by Honda in 1998.

                            http://www.altfuels.org/cleannbk.html
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                              Colorado gets snow in Oct--make drive now and give talks at Odyssey events later

                              Record low temps for Colorado have been recorded as early as Oct 2 with heavy storms occurring in the month. It may be better to make the trip in the summer and then invite sponsors to provide travel for the driver(s) to attend Odyssey events to make presentations in the fall.

                              The GX manual says not to use chains. But Super Z6 SZ119 low-profile chains from scc-chain will fit the HONDA recommended 185/65R14 tires (they fit the P185/70R14 tires also.)

                              Also, after studying the ...cleannbk... link as well as other leads, these other two cross country runs could not be repeated today using public fill stations:

                              On May 24-31 1998, the CLEANEST ACROSS AMERICA one-way trip used a 1998 Honda GX driven by Bill Fairbairn who claims to have filled at 22 public stations but the details can no longer be found on websites.

                              On Aug 2-23 1998, the CLEAN ACROSS AMERICA AND BACK trip used a 1993 Dodge B250 Ram wagon driven by Mark Looper and fueled at public and private stations using advance permissions. Of the 55 stations claimed, only 14 offer public fueling today and the El Paso east bound route does not offer enough public stations.
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