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    Anybody know if they are going to install CNG dispensers at their new location in Beaver that's open or the one coming on California/215 in SLC? The BEaver location has the pads for them, but no pumps yet. Are they sticking only to LNG? Beaver REALLY needs the CNG pumps.

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    Re: New BLU stations

    Last I knew there will be a station in Beaver. I do not know the timetable.

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    • #3
      Beaver was added to ANGH to fuel UPS semi's on I-15

      Beaver Flying J will be providing LNG for the America Natural Gas Highway in 2012! The trucks needing the fuel are already driving past it from Las Vegas to SLC.

      The roadmap linked below shows that the ANGH network is coming online for the lower portion of the country, with the NW and NE to follow in 2013:

      http://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/buildingamerica.html

      No matter where you are in the country, you may find where the LNG stations are going in near you:

      http://www.cleanenergyfuels.com/viewstations.html

      As for Beaver Flying J Dealer, 653 West 1400 North Beaver, UT 84713 being on the list, it didn't appear on the roadmap at the start of the year. Because United Parcel Service has deployed 40-some LNG rigs on I-15, Clean Energy Fuels responded by putting an additional station in to provide spacing on this route of around 200 miles between stations.

      My understanding is that, from a business standpoint, providing LNG for trucking is the objective in order to create the biggest market for natural gas initially. The expense of adding CNG components to these stations would limit the amount of money available to finish the remainder of the LNG stations. So it is not being done, presently. The Long Beach LNG station has CNG and the Las Vegas station has the pads in place to add CNG later.
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      • #4
        Re: Beaver was added to ANGH to fuel UPS semi's on I-15

        The BLU LNG station in Beaver does not have a vaporizer / CNG on site.
        The Clean Energy LNC station in Beaver will not either.

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        • #5
          Blu Transfuels LNG stations showing up on American Natural Gas Highway (ANGH)

          7 of the 13 CLEAN ENERGY LNG stations on ANGH have CNG according to their website "station locator map" :

          City of Tulare;3989 South K Street;Tulare, CA
          _1 CNG 3000 Standard
          _2 CNG 3600 Standard
          _1 CNG 3600 High Flow
          _2 LNG Green
          Phoenix Flying J#611;6700 West Latham;Phoenix, AZ
          _2 LNG Green
          Otay Mesa Pilot#343;1497 Piper Ranch Road;San Diego, CA
          _2 LNG Green
          Port of Long Beach;3400 East I Street;Wilmington, CA
          _2 CNG 3600 Standard
          _2 LNG Blue
          _4 LNG Green
          _2 Diesel
          Carson;2045 Carson Street;Carson, CA
          _2 LNG Blue
          _2 LNG Green
          Dallas;4600 Irving Blvd;Dallas, TX
          _2 CNG 3600 Standard
          _2 LNG Green
          Baytown Pilot#725;1876 E. Fwy;Baytown, TX
          _1 LNG Green
          Las Vegas;206 George Crockett Rd;Las Vegas, NV
          _4 LNG Blue
          Temecula - Downs Truckstop;27985 Diaz Rd;Temecula, CA
          _1 CNG 3000 Standard
          _1 CNG 3600 Standard
          _1 LNG Green
          _MasterCard/Visa
          LA Co Sanitation Dist;2800 Workman Mill Rd;Whittier, CA
          _1 CNG 3000 Standard
          _1 CNG 3600 Standard
          _2 LNG Green
          _MasterCard/Visa
          Riverside;1830 Agua Mansa Rd;Riverside, CA
          _4 CNG 3600 Standard
          _2 LNG Green
          _MasterCard/Visa/Wright Express/Voyager
          City of Commerce;5940 Sheila Street;Los Angeles, CA
          _1 CNG 3000 Standard
          _1 CNG 3600 Standard
          _2 CNG 3600 High Flow
          _2 LNG Green
          _MasterCard/Visa/Wright Express/Voyager
          Seville Pilot#13;8924 Lake Road;Seville, OH
          _2 LNG Green
          _MasterCard/Visa/Wright Express/Voyager/Discover/TranStar

          (In addition to any other payment cards shown, all CLEAN ENERGY FUELS stations take Clean Energy Fuel Card)

          Blu Transfuels LLC also building stations along ANGH as well as in places such as Myton, UT:

          http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...168683206.html


          In addition to its flagship station in Salt Lake City and the newly opened Beaver station, BLU currently has two additional sites under construction in Utah that will be operational within the next 60 days. The first is conveniently located off I-215 and California Ave in Salt Lake City, and the second is strategically located in the Uintah Basin at Myton, Utah. All four LNG stations will serve the transportation industry and expand the BLU network of retail facilities.
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          • #6
            Two grades of LNG are offered at some of the stations:

            Blue LNG is dispensed colder for Westport GX engine to extend range.

            Blue LNG (Cold < -225F @ 35 psig) is optimized for the Westport GX engine (Kenworth, Peterbilt.) Using warm LNG for Westport GX will cause fuel venting and reduce range.

            Green LNG (Warm -195F to -207F @ 85-120 psig) is for the spark-ignited, CWI ISL-G engines (Sterling, Freightliner.)

            The "High Flow" CNG nozzle mates to a larger receptable found on some buses and trucks.
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            • #7
              Transfuels Network of LNG stations nationwide

              Keynote speaker, Lyle Jensen - CEO of American Power Group, at the Green Transportation Conference II at the Portland Airport Sheraton October 24 2012 announced that another firm, Blu/Transfuels LLC, had 22 LNG stations in the works nationwide. Blu's second LNG station in Beaver Utah LNG station opened August 3:

              http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...168683206.html


              Apparently Blu's first station opened under the name CH4 Energy in February 2011 in Salt Lake City:

              http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...112959749.html


              According to CH4 Energy CEO Merritt Norton: "This station will be the premier public natural-gas fueling station in North America..."


              A brochure by Transfuels LLC available at the conference has a website, www.blulng.com which shows as "under construction." The brochure shows the distribution of the 22 stations as dots on a nationwide map.
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              • #8
                Nation seeing LNG over-the-road trucks in use...

                ... as well as cryogenic tankers supplying the LNG truck stops. Just to clarify the "40-some" in an earlier post, UPS operates 48 LNG trucks with two and three trailers on I-15 between Southern California and Salt Lake City.

                http://www.gladstein.org/index.php?o...id=13:gna-news48 LNG tractors funded by the ARRA grant
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                • #9
                  Re: Two grades of LNG are offered at some of the stations:

                  Originally posted by 300mileclub View Post
                  Blue LNG is dispensed colder for Westport GX engine to extend range.

                  Blue LNG (Cold < -225F @ 35 psig) is optimized for the Westport GX engine (Kenworth, Peterbilt.) Using warm LNG for Westport GX will cause fuel venting and reduce range.

                  Green LNG (Warm -195F to -207F @ 85-120 psig) is for the spark-ignited, CWI ISL-G engines (Sterling, Freightliner.)

                  The "High Flow" CNG nozzle mates to a larger receptable found on some buses and trucks.
                  I am not sure that I understand the colder the lng is the longer it will be before it absorbs enough heat to start venting and what little I know about lng is that there are two pull ports on the tank one at the bottom and one at the top and that if the pressure rises it will pull from the top port to reduce the pressure and if the pressure drops it pulls from the bottom to allow the pressure to rise as the liquid boils off creating pressure on top of the liquid so why would anyone want to start with warm lng and as it is sold by the gallon you would get less btus per gallon as it is not as dense when it is warmer. I had a friend that was in on some road tests 10 or 12 years ago and he told me that it made a big differance as to the range as the lng got warmer

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                  • #10
                    Re: Two grades of LNG are offered at some of the stations:

                    are all the lng stations going to have cng ? it seems that they would as no need for compressors just a postive displacement pump and just pump lng in to a heat exchanger and presto you have cng and could run a small compressor to recover boil off and sell it as cng rather than waste it

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                    • #11
                      Source: cleanenergyfuels.com &gt; Resources &gt; Natural Gas Academy

                      Here is the direct link for the four short videos providing an overview of LNG engines/fueling on the CLNE website:

                      http://www.cumminswestport.com/natur...academy-videos


                      A LNG station just dedicated in Central Point, Oregon has pads for CNG storage if/when it is needed for trucking.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Beaver was added to ANGH to fuel UPS semi's on I-15

                        Originally posted by John Mitton View Post
                        The BLU LNG station in Beaver does not have a vaporizer / CNG on site.
                        The Clean Energy LNC station in Beaver will not either.
                        Correct, but will they? Seems like the facility was built for it...

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                        • #13
                          Clarification of ENN Group, BLU, Transfuels LLC and CH4 Energy

                          Clean Energy Boosted By U.S. Natural Gas Refueling Station Plans by Michael Fitzsimmons | Mar 15 2013, 6:51 | about:CLNE includes:GE, WPRT

                          http://m.seekingalpha.com/article/1276511

                          ENN Group...has already built natural gas stations in China.

                          ...ENN Group plans to build 50 stations in the US this year alone. According to industry experts, the average liquefied natural gas station costs around $1 million to build. This puts ENN's investment this year at about $50 million...

                          ENN turned to CH4 Energy Corp. (love the name!), a small Utah Company. CH4 Energy Corp. had opened a single LNG and CNG fueling station in Salt Lake City. A deal between these two companies created Transfuels LLC, which operates natural gas stations under the "Blu LNG" brand. ENN has a majority stake in the joint venture and controls its board of directors.

                          Blu LNG is moving rapidly. Merritt Norton, who founded CH4, and is Blu's chief executive, said:

                          We have five stations in operation right now, and within I would say two weeks we will have another three stations.

                          Last month, ENN reached an agreement with Westport Innovations (WPRT). The partnership between the two companies is aimed at the proliferation of natural gas transportation solutions and fuel for on-road, off-road, rail and marine applications...Westport is not helping ENN with its U.S. LNG stations. The president of Westport's China business said:

                          They don't need us. They know what they are doing and they have the money for it.

                          ...This is great news for American consumers too because it means CLNE's "America's Natural Gas Highway" may well be built much faster than previously thought...
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                            UPS: 700 More LNG-Powered Trucks Coming by NGT News Apr 23, 2013

                            ...Right now, UPS operates 112 LNG tractors and relies on fueling stations in Las Vegas; Phoenix; Salt Lake City; and Beaver, Utah - as well as a UPS-owned facility in Ontario, Calif. - to refuel these trucks. However, the company says it will support the 700 new trucks by investing $18 million in four new LNG refueling stations in Dallas and in Knoxville, Nashville and Memphis, Tenn. These four will be online by the end of next year.

                            With the addition of these LNG fueling stations, UPS will be able to expand its LNG-fueled routes into metro areas such as Dallas, Houston and San Antonio.

                            UPS notes that the company operates more than 1,000 natural gas vehicles worldwide, as well as a number of propane autogas, electric and other alt-fuel vehicles.

                            http://www.ngtnews.com/e107_plugins/...4#.UXyWIs9BvOo
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                            • #15
                              Cummins Westport ISX12 G fuelled by LNG posted by NGT News on April 26, 2013

                              Modern Transportation has deployed freight service to the Owens Corning roofing plant in Savannah, Ga., using trucks powered solely by 12-litre natural-gas-fuelled engines; the high-volume, dedicated service established between Sanford, N.C., and Savannah, Ga., on April 18, 2013, is the first ever built around commercial-order, production-built engines.

                              Modern Transportation has closely monitored the NG-powered truck sector and had opted to defer on freight opportunities tied to natural gas powering until the output from prior-generation nine-litre engines was improved uponcomplete each 600-mile round trip on a single fuelinghttp://www.lngworldnews.com/modern-t...wer-fleet-usa/


                              http://www.ngtnews.com/e107_plugins/...4#.UY0hic9BvOp
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