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DOE Announces Webinars on Hydrogen Fueling Infrastructure Technology

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  • DOE Announces Webinars on Hydrogen Fueling Infrastructure Technology

    NOVEMBER 14, 2014
    DOE Announces Webinars on Hydrogen Fueling Infrastructure Technology, Energy Efficiency and Conservation Loan Program, and More

    The Energy Department will present a live webinar entitled "An Overview of the Hydrogen Fueling Infrastructure Research and Station Technology (H2FIRST) Project" on Tuesday, November 18, from 12:00 p.m. to 1:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. The H2FIRST project focuses on technical tasks in support of H2USA to ensure that fuel cell vehicle customers have a positive fueling experience similar to conventional gasoline and diesel stations, as more of these vehicles are introduced to the market and the nation transitions to advanced fueling technology. Register for the webinar.
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    Write-ups and photos:

    Most of the car models - Hyundai Tucson ($500/mo lease), Toyota Mirai (sells for $57,500), Honda Clarity (lease) and Mercedes-Benz F-Cell - are being introduced with free fuel for three years$14,000 in state and federal rebates are availablehydrogen fueling station cost $2.5M of which the California Energy Commission paid $1.6M.

    Speakers had this to say:

    Janea Scott, Commissioner California Energy Commission: UPS has plans to use fuel-cell electric trucks; The Energy Commission's ARFVTP has spent more than $500M for ZEV fuel stations and will spend another $48M to build 48 H2 stationsconducted over 1M safe fuelings of H2 vehicles using Linde IC 90 ionic compressorfuel cell cost has been reduced 60% since 2006, 30% since 2008, and there has been a 5-fold reduction in the cost of the platinum element
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      Journalist Jan Dalske did a detailed job of researching what there was to learn about fuel cell vehicles (FCV) and her articles are what is needed to raise understanding about emerging technology. She may be reached through

      The fuel comparisons come down to a gge is 1kg H2 = 2.5 kg CNG = 3.5 kg gasoline. The hydrogen car tanks hold 6 kg H2 providing a 300 mile range. The dispenser fills the tank at 1 kg/min from observations of the car filled at the event. (This comes to 1 gge H2/min if one wants to compare with the flow being provided to fill trucks with CNG these days of 10 gge CNG/min.) The last chart at the bottom of the Wikipedia entry helps with this:

      What is all comes down to is that hydrogen fuel allows an electric vehicle to be filled with "fuel" as opposed to having to be charged over a period of time.


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          Lease, to begin in 2016. No purchase option at end of lease.
          Estimated driving range 265 miles. 10 minutes required for full fill.
          Other electric cars require 3 hours on a 240V charger, or 14 hours on 110V
          134HP;100 kW motor; tank capacity 5.6 KG H2 @ 10K psi; 2M miles of testing to date.
          In addition to the fuel cell, it has a Li-Polymer 0.95 kWh battery producing 24 kW at 60AH.



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            Re: DOE Announces Webinars on Hydrogen Fueling Infrastructure Technology

            Eden Energy, of Littleton CO, describes how Hythane - a mix of 7% (by energy content) H2 combined with methane - enhances the rate and completeness of the ignition given that hydrogen burns 8X more rapidly and dramatically increases the narrow flammability range (fuel to air mix) of methane alone. It would appear from the video that development trials are underway in India and Australia. Customers appear to be the large, "rocket science" (Aerojet is mentioned) corporations who want to see what it can do:




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              It is worth mentioning, in the context of the Altamont LNG plant reference above, that Cem Hacioglu has started BOREAS NATURAL GAS supplying solutions in the LCNG markets. Clem was the former head of Applied LNG which operates the cryogenic tankers between Altamont and Waste Managements fueling facility at 172 98th Ave Oakland, CA




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                160 H2 stations and 40,000 fuel cell vehicles projected for Japan by 2020:




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                  Brian Wong for September 20, 2016 - Filler Up: Refueling the 2016 Toyota Mirai

                  . . . At most hydrogen stations, there are two types of hydrogen pumps — H35 and H70. H35 pumps are able to fill the tanks to 5,000 pounds per square inch, which is half of the capacity of the tank. H70 pumps are double the pressure and will fill the tanks all the way, up to 10,000 psi. This means that if you are empty and only an H35 pump is available, you will only be able to refill halfway, but if you have more than half a tank, an H35 pump will not help you at all.

                  The pump attaches to a metal receptacle that runs to the hydrogen tanks. On an H35 pump, there is a lever you turn to secure it. H70 pumps have a trigger that is similar to what you would see on a gasoline pump, but instead of starting the flow of hydrogen fuel, it locks the pump onto the spout to make sure it is secure. Give it a tug to be sure it is on tight.

                  After that, it is pretty straightforward: Hit a button and the tanks start to refill with hydrogen fuel. While fueling, the area around the pump can get very cold, so it is not uncommon to see condensation or frost on the receptacle. The station lets you know when the tank is full via a beep and a message on the screen. You may also hear some of the excess hydrogen from the fueling process vented out of the top of the station.

                  Our fill-up from one-quarter tank to full took about 6 minutes, 30 seconds, so a bit longer than filling up with gas but not prohibitively long. Still, it is much faster than even the quickest chargers for electric cars, the Tesla supercharger, which takes 30 minutes to charge up to 80 percent of its battery.

                  Hydrogen gas is sold by the kilogram instead of the gallon. In La Canada, Calif., it was $16.63 per kilogram. The car was three-quarters empty when filled and the tanks hold around 5 kilograms of hydrogen, so it took 3.81 kilograms to fill back it up at a cost of $63.51. The trip meter read 195.3 miles at that point. That put the cost per mile at around $0.33. This is still much higher than the cost of fuel for a gasoline vehicle; the EPA estimates the cost per mile of a 2016 Prius to be $0.04 per mile.


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